SwiftOnSecurity , Englisch
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tbh I know a lot of you aren’t ready for the end of Man because you aren’t even ready to revert to the quality of life in the 1980’s. We’re talking European QoL here. No A/C.

Imma b real I’m Alt-F4ing when that happens I’m not sticking around to live like that.

autobotanist ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity I laid in a tub of 60F water tonight for an hour not because it felt good and was comfortable. Sometimes I worry that I was born in the wrong century other times I am glad for modern conveniences and especially modern medicine. The point is you can choose to toughen up. But yes it feels like abuse.

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@SwiftOnSecurity
Joke's on you. I grew up in the south. Everywhere had AC in the 80s and even 70s.

Lee_Holmes ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity I hear they CTRL-W in Europe. Even your ALT-F4 won't save you.

GuillaumeRossolini ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity we’re way ahead of you, we’re rolling it back further than the 80’s: no heating either

penny ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity It happens every day…I’m living in an encampment because i’m homeless now

Honestly the temperature has been the last thing on my mind

dj2mn ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity if you're talking about Air Conditioning, that is one of my least favourite things about my visits to America. Why do you people have such a problem with fresh air?!!

dalias ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity No problem, we know how to do AC both passively (no energy input) and actively without significant electricity (only solar heating as energy input, aside from boring small loads like fans and pumps). Just need to get our act together and do it.

andybrwn ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity Same. Can’t tech out of this shitshow

dko ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity
End of Man?
y'all ain't even ready for the Isle of Man

gary_alderson ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity I will invent an ice cube suit

SwiftOnSecurity OP ,
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I fundamentally do not believe a human can grow up in an A/C world as a youth and later accept the European lifestyle. It would be like asking if I could live in a hut on the prairie and shuttle a little bucket down a well for water. It’s not happening.

mnordhoff ,

@SwiftOnSecurity I've had several brief vacations to that lifestyle known as "hurricane-related power outage" and "air conditioner needs maintenance".

tehstu ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity Europe is like Seattle: grey, expensive, and slowly getting AC.

rstevens ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity hear me out: we can summer in holes

skington ,
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@SwiftOnSecurity Define “European”. In the UK we don’t have or need aircon because it’s mostly raining and never* too hot.

*: global warming is doing its best to fix this, but in truth the main problem is our houses aren’t built against heat. Aircon won’t solve that.

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  • jezebelkat ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity

    Europeans get big mad when I say that the EU is just Proto-USE. Basically between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution, but centralisation is rapidly happening as the EU structures gain more and more suzerainty over member states.

    paul_ipv6 ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity

    EU believes in "equal but separate", rather than "separate but equal"...

    snakespeare ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity Americans struggling to understand the European Union (or Europe in general) and insulated construction always amuse me.

    hhf ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity common mistake. If you could experience something like the French in the US of A, you would understand.

    henryk ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity There's tumblr exchange from days past that I remember once in a while: https://frenchtugboat.tumblr.com/post/101577809827/thegoneseriesblog-tbh-americans-are-so-funny

    bontchev ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity
    Q: Where are you from?

    European1: Germany.
    European2: France.
    European3: Belgium.
    American: Alamo Heights, San Antonio, Texas.

    mattwilcox ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity Don’t want it. Very expensive for the one day a year you’d use it.

    nrmacdonald ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity
    defeatist

    Meyerweb ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity I did, even though I live in America (so far). Grew up in A/C until I moved out of my college dorm, and then again for a few years in my second apartment. Current house of 24 years has ceiling fans, no A/C. So it’s possible, unless… <x-files.wav>

    DaveMWilburn ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity Europe is adopting AC at such a rate that it's eating up basically all of their gains from renewable energy.

    I lived in Europe during the 2003 heatwave, and shortly thereafter bought a small AC unit to always keep at least one bedroom cool.

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    @SwiftOnSecurity Ummm...temperatures have changed. A big problem with current heat waves is that many folk don't have a/c because they never needed it before and are unprepared for the extreme heat when it comes.

    jezebelkat ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity

    What about heat pumps/mini splits?

    Those are increasingly common in Europe, and it's what is most common in Japan.

    If you mean centralised cooling, then maybe? I dunno. We had swamp coolers in New Mexico, central cooling wasn't a thing I had until I moved to Texas, and haven't had since moving to Japan a lifetime ago.

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    @SwiftOnSecurity I bought a portable AC unit for the first time ever in 2022. I used it for a couple of weeks, and since then it's just been sat in storage. 😂

    In Northern Europe, it's not heatwaves that are the problem, it's mostly the frozen water coming down as melted water instead.

    bcdavid ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity Dude, this is literally the life of most Minnesotans.

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    @SwiftOnSecurity

    aight bet

    i can.

    and the reason why i can isn’t that i didn’t have a/c until the 1990s, but that the place i’m going to be moving to was designed with a heat shelter in the 1980s.

    basically, it has a level that’s designed for maximum airflow and light (with options to switch between the two) and a level that’s designed with thermal barriers and to keep out nearly all the sunlight, as in only a few rays of sunset penetrate.

    1morumotto ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity Yes, us 🇪🇺not having no A/C by default is extremely negative.

    definity ,
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    @SwiftOnSecurity I did exactly that. Living in Europe since 2008 and haven't had A/C since. Don't miss it and I think it's better tbh.

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