Raxiel ,

The trick is to say "Linux sucks! It can't even X!" Where X is what your issue is preventing. You'll get the answer, to prove you wrong.

arken ,

Or find a thread where someone else asked the same question, and give the wrong answer/solution.

Melvin_Ferd ,

I think we're past this era honestly and moved into the "ask Chatgpt"

There should be an AI trained just on linux questions.

jnk ,

Problem is the training data might include "Do you know what google is, noob?"

oo1 ,

rtfarchwiki

Frostbeard , (Bearbeitet )

I installed Linux on my gfs (now wife) old laptop years ago when the beginner distros was way less user friendly. When I asked on a forum for help it was just the sound of crickets. When she made her first post starting with "my boyfriend installed Linux and I don't understand how to..." They fucking fell out trees to answer her questions

jaybone ,

lol bunch of thirsty incels.

Is your wife single?

Melvin_Ferd ,

Let us know if she still needs help

Frostbeard , (Bearbeitet )

No. But she loved the the reply :)

DeaDvey OP ,
Deconceptualist , (Bearbeitet )
@Deconceptualist@lemm.ee avatar

I love that this comic is already a meme.

BTW which distro is best for running Adobe??? I really need Photoshop on my laptop.
EDIT: /s, and also I guess the joke doesn't actually work here lol

sag ,
@sag@lemm.ee avatar

https://github.com/hypnotiger/photoshop-on-linux or If you have low end device then use CS6 version of Adobe Software with Wine. Ofcourse, You can *arrrr them.

neo ,

I don't know, but I would try a distro that is also recommended for gaming, because you will likely need an up to date version of WINE or something similar.

So maybe endeavour or Pop!_OS?

From my personal (very noobish) experience, it might be necessary to run a virtual machine with Windows. However, this experience is from before the Steam Deck and Proton, which improved the whole software biotope by a lot.

Deconceptualist ,
@Deconceptualist@lemm.ee avatar

I already run Endeavour and don't actually need any proprietary Adobe software, but thanks :)

neo ,

I was wondering if you were joking :D
but apparently I guessed wrong.

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

VMWare workstation is now free for Linux!!!!

Just run windows 10 LTSB!

Deconceptualist ,
@Deconceptualist@lemm.ee avatar

VMWare workstation is now free for Linux!!!!

Oh? That's pretty cool.

Just run windows 10 LTSB!

Ew, no. I will never do that. I was completely joking about Adobe and expecting links to the GIMP repo lol.

sag ,
@sag@lemm.ee avatar

Ew, no. I will never do that. I was completely joking about Adobe and expecting links to the GIMP repo lol.

LOL, I was thinking you were serious and I started finding more guides and script to install Photoshop on Linux after replying to you. I was ready for your reply like "Can you give me more info about script? Or I want to install a *arrr version?".

Deconceptualist ,
@Deconceptualist@lemm.ee avatar

Haha. Well I appreciate that you and others are so willing to help! The old "get lost and RTFM" stereotype is really feeling antiquated here.

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, nothing beats the Adobe suite for doing creative stuff. I really wish they offered CC on Linux.

Yeah... GIMP is a joke compared to Photoshop, just find a copy of CS6 😉

Deconceptualist , (Bearbeitet )
@Deconceptualist@lemm.ee avatar

Oh I won't dispute that. I have a close friend in the graphics and video field where Adobe CC is indispensable.

But that's not what I do. For anything I need to edit, GIMP and Pixlr are more than sufficient.

My joke was that in the old days of tech forums, I feel like there was almost a kneejerk reaction among the GNU/Linux diehards to ditch closed source at any cost, and if you didn't you weren't worth their time or compassion (like the sharks in the comic here).

Also, I'm not sure the comparison is entirely fair because I kinda doubt the budget and manpower behind GIMP are even in the same galaxy as Photoshop.

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I really wanted to like GIMP. I'm a huge Debian / Ubuntu fan and love OSX as well. Like for dev work, Linux is amazing, best tool for that job hands down.

I might try DaVinci resolve, cause running Premiere in a VM, I don't think will work well.

And yeah, the Linux community can be super elitist unfortunately, nerds that gatekeep their niche...

Like, when did a operating system become a core personality trait? Folks treat it like a sports team. 🤔

I get flack for liking Ubuntu and Mac 😑

Melvin_Ferd ,

Windows 11

DeaDvey OP ,

I saw it on c/comics and realised it could be a meme.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Buy a different GPU

I'll let myself out

overload ,

Ah yes, a perfectly normal thing to do after I've previously spent thousands on my NVIDIA GPU and am just getting into Linux.
Love this comment when it comes up.

michaelmrose ,

This is complicated. Firstly outside of Wayland Nvidia works pretty great and has worked great for me 21 years on the other hand the amount spent is kinda irrelevant using different hardware is often actually the correct advice. Often though the logical move is use Windows on your effectively Windows only laptop and if you want to run Linux buy something compatible next go round.

Some hardware just isn't supported and given hostile to indifferent oems it will always be so

overload ,

I agree, and it's been a fine experience with nvidia on Xorg. "Buy new hardware" is not what someone getting into Linux should hear though if we want to increase the number of Linux users.

michaelmrose ,

If your hardware isn't supported what are people supposed to say? Gosh I'm sorry volunteers didn't donate more free work to make that shitty laptop work let me now assemble a strike force of expert programs to crack that problem by next week? Labor is a finite resource especially free labor.

TimeSquirrel , (Bearbeitet )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

I mean, you wouldn't buy a sports car and then a month later post to a forum asking questions about how to tow a 40 foot camper with it, would you? You would research this stuff beforehand, or deal with the fact that it's not compatible for that job. We can't put Nvidias thumbs into a thumbscrew and force them to offer more Linux support, so that's what we're stuck with.

Theharpyeagle ,

The problem is that a lot of users aren't building a new machine for Linux, but converting an existing Windows laptop or desktop. In my case, I'd already bought an Nvidia card about a year before I decided to switch to Linux for gaming. Not ideal, of course, but it work a good 95% of the time and I can't really afford to get a different card right now. I'll definitely keep it in mind for my next pc upgrade, though.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It isn't wrong though. Don't give Nvidia your money

RecluseRamble ,

He said X, not Wayland.

the_crotch ,

This has been a trope since Linux existed.

"Linux doesn't work with my hardware*

"Well, just spend hundreds or thousands on new hardware so you can run this free OS!"

bolexforsoup ,

Dude I had a bunch of people tell me to install mint OS on an older intel MacBook Pro and no one told me that out the box your Wi-Fi doesn’t work, the keyboard doesn’t light up, the touch bar doesn’t work, etc. lol

I don’t even like the Touch Bar but I need F keys so…

Then when I asked what to do they all said “well that’s your fault for using a Mac.” Most unhelpful shit ever. One guy said “well use an external keyboard and Ethernet chord then. I’m on a tower what’s the issue here?”

It’s a laptop. Sometimes I move around with it. I travel a fair bit too.

Idk honestly it’s not just a Linux thing. Any technical community you’ll often find a lot of people who hand wave away very reasonable issues instead of either suggesting a solution or, I don’t know, just not saying anything? Like they have to chime in and call you a whiner.

Liz ,

Did you ever get everything working? I don't have a Mac, I'm just curious.

bolexforsoup ,

Not with mint no. I think I’m going to try and boot pop or mint on my wife’s old X1 carbon. Specs aren’t remotely as good but it’ll be sufficient for a Jellyfin server

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I'm thinking of using my second SSD to install Linux, is Arch actually good or just a meme?

perry ,
@perry@lemy.lol avatar

Depends on your use case. Arch is a DIY distro but is well maintained and has the latest packages on their repo. Its user centric, unlike many distributions that are user friendly. You could read the archwiki to find out if its for you

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I used Ubuntu for about a decade and I still use a Linux system via SSH to run code, so I'd like the challenge. I just wanted to know if it's worth the work or just a meme, thanks!

zcd ,

It's a really good, slightly bare bones initially but completely modular/customizable. If it's your first foray into Linux something like Debian, Mint or PopOS would be a slightly more comfortable starting point

FiniteBanjo ,

If you're on Windows currently and it supports Hyper-V then I recommend using it to try a few distros out. I liked using Kubuntu 23 recently.

ayaya ,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

It is genuinely amazing, there's a reason us Arch users never shut up about it. The setup/configuration in the beginning will seem daunting but once you have everything the way you want it is a smooth and enjoyable experience.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I've spent over a decade in Ubuntu and using ssh terminals to run code, but I'm looking for big boy Linux. I think I'll try it out.

ayaya ,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

If that's the case it should be a much easier transition. I also came from Ubuntu originally.

You will notice the difference right away. Everything is always up to date so you're not waiting half a year for updates and there's no big upgrade transitions between major versions. And pacman is a lot faster than apt in general.

Plus with the AUR you'll never touch another PPA again. Almost anything you could possibly want is in there, even some of the most obscure/specific things.

I do recommend doing everything from scratch if you have the time, but if not EndeavourOS is literally just preconfigured Arch (and I do mean literally, it uses the same repos) so that's also a solid option.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds amazing actually. And a good challenge, I'll give it a go when I get my computer back next week.

MehBlah ,

Use something easier to get started with like Ubuntu or Debian. Arch isn't that great. I've installed it a few times as a VM but to me it brings nothing new to the mix. I kinda view Arch fanatics like apple fan bois or beer snobs. Kinda fun to laugh at for being so pretentious. After a while though you wish they would quit hot boxing their own hubris.

ayaya ,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

It brings nothing new to the mix until you want something that's up to date or something that's not in the main repos and now you have to track down a PPA or manually install a deb file and keep it updated yourself instead of being able to use the package manager.

saddlebag ,

Rtfm noob

neo ,

I'm using Ubuntu derivatives since many years. I've looked at Arch in virtual machines and was very much lost. Even with Manjaro I didn't get along. I'm still testing EndeavourOS, which looks promising.

So to me, Arch is too much hands on for my lazy ass. However, if you like to nerd yourself into it, it's awesome (I think).

JackRiddle ,

Arch is great, but not very beginner friendly. It might be better to start with somethin debian-based like linux mint, and install arch once you get used to using the commandline and know where to find answers to your questions etc.

Jumuta ,
@Jumuta@sh.itjust.works avatar

i like it but i think beginners should start out with" just works" distros

eskimofry ,

You can start with Endeavor OS KDE.. it's an arch system with Endeavor OS package managment added on top. So the Arch experience is the same.. without the pain of installation.

Plus it has some cool wallpapers.

LifeLikeLady ,
@LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world avatar

Just learn to search for the proper Terminal/ Konsole command to copy and paste what you want just like the rest of us.

That's how you Linux... Right? My dudes? Right?

zcd ,
foggy ,

No better way to learn how something works than to be forced to repair it from a broken state 😎

bluewing ,

Pretty much. It's what makes all those Linux Experts so Expert! Besides, ain't no one got time to memorize and understand what all that stuff does.......

explodicle ,

In the time it takes to do that, the first half of the stuff is different!

sepi ,

This is the year of the linux desktop

deegeese ,
@deegeese@sopuli.xyz avatar

If I want to run games in Steam on NVidia GPU, with KDE and Wayland, what distribution would you recommend?

sepi ,

Windows XP

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

they ported kde wayland to xp? wow!

Tash ,
@Tash@lemmy.world avatar

Check out one of the Fedora spins if you want to go Wayland.

bluewing ,

I have Fedora KDE Plasma 40 on a laptop with a nVidia chipset, (I need to have it defaulted to Nouveau and the base Intel chipset). Maybe by the middle of next month they MIGHT have something cobbled together to get a decently working experience for the majority of users. Otherwise, don't be surprised if your screen flickers, has missing parts of your display, or just a black and blank screen.

Wayland and nVidia - two piles of stupid that are meant for each other.

Botzo ,

Garuda. Gaming/perf focus, with lots of built-in niceties (like btrfs snapshots on upgrade, proton GE, etc)

marduk ,

I just use Debian, KDE is an option during install and I use it. However, my brain lacks wrinkles so I'm sure it could be "better" on a more purpose built gaming distro. Over the decades of on and off Linux use, I always end up on Debian because it feels like solid ground to me

bluewing ,

At this point with Wayland, none of them..........

yala , (Bearbeitet )

Technically not a distro, but give Bazzite a try. It's probably the most hands-off gaming experience on Linux. Valve employees also make contributions to it.

hitagi ,
@hitagi@ani.social avatar

install gentoo

youngalfred ,

You should use Wayland, not x

comador ,
@comador@lemmy.world avatar

Don't forget Pulse audio!

Blaster_M ,

Pipewire's the new hotness

SeekPie ,

I will, as soon as Pop!_OS moves to it.

SGG ,

X is deprecated, you should have moved into systemd-Y

You should change to Arch, I don't use X but Arch is better.

abadbronc ,

Oh fuck you.. take your upvote and know that you have hurt my soul and I love you for it.

SGG ,
deathmetal27 ,

X is deprecated, you should move to Wayland.

Pacrat173 ,

I’ve found Lemmy’s Linux community to be extremely helpful I hope it stays this way

FiniteBanjo ,

I asked about servers once and they told me don't host a server under any circumstance.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

"If you don't know to do X, don't even bother learning."

barsquid ,

"Don't learn anything, just give up." Great, thanks, guys.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

It's one of the things that I like the most about lemmy over reddit. The reddit linux community was toxic, insular and gatekeepy, even as a moderately experienced linux user I had difficulty getting help.

"Learn how to Google noob!"

Fuck sakes, I just spent several hours deep diving forums and Web search results looking for an answer to my question, and the only thing I could find that was exactly my problem was concluded by OP editing their post to say "Ah, never mind, figured it out." And not including the solution.....

Liz ,

It should be legal to hunt that person down and clamp a lobster to their nipples.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh there's a special place in hell, where Satan from the movie Little Nicky is, waiting for these people....with lobsters and a pineapple.

Jumuta ,
@Jumuta@sh.itjust.works avatar

probably because lemmy's pretty small compared to places like reddit and because everyone sees the same content with the same sorting, places like reddit make a few "help" requests visible and make them feel unimportant

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