nulluser ,

Been using Linux as my primary OS for (counts on fingers)... decades now. Called them folders the whole time. Never had a problem with it. Nobody who matters cares.

ignotum ,

Until now, i care a ton!
Oh wait, "Nobody who matters"
dang, nevermind

state_electrician ,

Exactly, thank you. My thought when seeing this was "who the fuck cares?"

poinck ,
@poinck@lemm.ee avatar

I care.

Forester ,

In parlance I have found you can say 'what directory is that folder in?' If you want to have a user give you a full path.

Cipher22 ,

I typically call them folders when going through the GUI and directories when using CLI.

bassomitron ,

I never realized I subconsciously did this until your pointing it out. Huh. Thanks for that insight I suppose, haha

Kyatto ,
@Kyatto@leminal.space avatar

well it sorta just makes sense, the gui presents it as a folder, you can move things around in it like a folder, conceptually it presents them in a way to make you think they are physical things stored in a physical folder/box. cli it really just feels like you are using a string of characters indicating the desired file, it feels more like a directory that way, even if it always really is that way, just showcased differently in the gui.

brain doing brainy things, strings/lines vs pictures/labels

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Exactly my thoughts.

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is a fact.

EffortlessEffluvium , (Bearbeitet )

Big Brother approves

lefixxx ,

To move a folder (gui), you just do it.
To move a directory (cli) you have to implicitly say you want the contents too.

ZeroCool ,
@ZeroCool@slrpnk.net avatar
littletranspunk ,

You make and use folders

I make directories and call them folders anyway

We are not the same

Crozekiel ,

meh. folder is 2 syllables, directory is like 4. I'm lazy. If someone gave me a clear one syllable alternative that others would know what I meant (even if while cringing), i'd probably start using that instead. I've tried just "dir", but no one ever knows wtf i'm saying.

nickwitha_k ,

I just use "dir" about 90% of the time.

flop_leash_973 ,

Yep, while this meme is funny and in jest. If someone actually seriously gave me shit for saying "folder" or "directory" I would have to ask them what Stallman's toe nails actually taste like. Because that is up there with his level of being rigid about something that I just can't stand.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I do agree, but I do double check how I wrote and what I wrote when replying on GitHub 😁.

MehBlah ,

I like how you put things.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

While conversing with Linux users, they should know what dir means... I mean, even if they don't use the terminal that often, dir is often used in GUIs as well in Linux.

Crozekiel ,

I might should clarify that when using "dir" verbally no one knows what I'm saying, but maybe how I pronounce it in my head isn't how everyone else does, lol. In text it's plenty clear, imo.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, yeah, in that case it does make sense 😁.

grrgyle ,
@grrgyle@slrpnk.net avatar

The real hard Linux nerds will just call them files

Sethayy ,

Everything. Is. A. File.

grrgyle ,
@grrgyle@slrpnk.net avatar

You just put in my head an idea for the most boring "real or cake" spin-off imaginable

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

WELL ACKSHUALLY

Landless2029 ,
jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar
pythonoob ,

I only call them by inode. Scoffs

hperrin ,

inodes can be files or directories though.

pythonoob ,

I just learned what an inode is last week so I'm doing my best here.

Zacryon ,

"Everything is a file."

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

No one cares

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

As long as you don't call it a path.

dezmd ,
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TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Isn't that what a hierarchical string of them are called?

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Idk about hierarchy but PATH is a thing and the proper terminology is filepath, so the word path becomes ambiguated as it could be used to refer to either. Hence why I say it is bad practice to use it as a primary reference in conversation. Otherwise you'll get interns and users modifying their PATH for no damn reason and wondering why nothing works.

SlothMama ,

Well dir

takeheart ,

So what's the difference?

My intuition is that directory is the older term and refers to something existing on the file system while folder can be that but also includes "virtual folders" that group together different files from across the file system like when photo manager shows you categories like 'recently viewed' or 'taken in 2023'.

ConstantPain ,

None.

femboy_bird ,
@femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Uhhh directories are files where other files are stored in a computer, folders are pieces of paper used to store pieces of paper (or a file used to store another files in a computer)

festnt ,

folders are only considered files in linux, in windows, its a mess

femboy_bird ,
@femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

something about not unix operating systems not being valid

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

obligatory mansplaining that Linux is not Unix

funkless_eck ,

obligatory its a Unix system, I know this

kamenoko ,
@kamenoko@sh.itjust.works avatar

A directory outside of computing is simply a list of items with a common characteristic. A list of names at an apartment building for example.

4am ,

And on a CLI a directory is just a list of other files.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Directory is the older term, but when they started making computers user friendly they needed a friendlier word for it. Folders make sense because people understand putting files in folders in real life.

takeheart ,

Aha, to me it's an apt metaphors as files go into folders and it fits with the whole desktop analogy.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
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Exactly, except like all computer metaphors they break down when you get into the details. I can't put a document in more than one folder and update them at the same time IRL like I can do with a symlink.

takeheart ,

You bring up a pretty good point. Whenever I have a personal document that could go into multiple categories (eg a travel insurance certificate can go into travel, insurance, or finance folder) I place it in all 3 at once with hard links. What's more is that if I intuitively first search for a document in place A but it's actually in place B I simply place a link in A for the next time.

Before I learned a bit about file systems I didn't even conceive of such a thing being possible; precisely because the folder metaphor had imprinted upon me the physical world constraint that things can only be in a single place at once.

minamoog ,
@minamoog@lemmy.world avatar

everything in my home directory is a folder, everything outside of that is a directory

Sethayy ,

And interestingly enough the home directory itself falls outside of itself

ManniSturgis ,
@ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip avatar

Utterly mind-shattering revelation

QuazarOmega ,

Me when I don't say inodes to refer to folders in iOS:

metaStatic ,

da fuck?

QuazarOmega ,

Dumb joke, iKnow

starman ,
@starman@programming.dev avatar
  • iFolder
  • Air Directory
possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I'm referring to folders as iFolders from now on

QuazarOmega ,
  • Air Directory

That actually sounds like a great name for a cloud service, lol

Tebbie ,

Ew, inodes is pretty cringe. :(

fmstrat ,

alias cf=cd

Note: I don't actually do this. I'm not a monster.

pythonoob ,

Cloud foundry? Not familiar with cf

toynbee ,

Given that cd is "change directory," I assume cf is meant to be "change folder."

ILikeBoobies ,

Yes and it’s telling the computer to treat cf as if it was cd

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's interesting that Windows also uses cd, even though they call them folders 😂.

MehBlah ,

Meh, I dont care. If they used a word that wasn't directly linked to the concept then I might care.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Likewise, we all know what it means, regardless if you say it like this or that.

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