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FiniteBanjo , in Btw, I don't use Arch

Was the original a joke about MMO learning curves with the top line being Path of Exile?

MeDuViNoX ,
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I'm pretty sure I saw this with EVE Online a long time ago.

MeDuViNoX ,
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PunnyName ,

I give up, what's POTBS?

GreatTitEnthusiast ,

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Never heard of it, either

cm0002 ,

Never heard here either, I'd say RuneScape is more popular, so this chart is basically invalid LMAO

radicalautonomy ,

Eve Online is the finest, most intricate MMO ever created, and I absolutely hate it.

Name ,

EVE Online I think

raynethackery ,

I work with spreadsheets all day, why would I want to do it in my free time?

JackRiddle ,

Path of exile is fine as long as you follow someone elses build

FiniteBanjo ,

You might be able to get through the story and a couple of maps pretty easily without a guide, later acts will be difficult if you specced really wrong, but if you want to run endgame content and league mechanics while on a hardcore solo self founded character then you better go get fucking gud, mate.

xploit ,

Shame AO wasn't there, probably not Eve level but also more enjoyable

c0smokram3r , in 100+ Linux Things you Need to Know
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The Epstein flight log example 😅😂

abbadon420 , in 100+ Linux Things you Need to Know

Don't buy this guy's course though. Try this free resource instead. It covers every basic you need to know about linux and more

noproblemmy ,

I love how compact it is. Over time I have heard so many names, but having something put them in relation to each other is going to help a lot.

darkghosthunter , in 100+ Linux Things you Need to Know

This is a great video to introduce someone to the whole “What is Linux” thing without going into deep detail, plus showing some tools you’ll use every day.

unlawfulbooger , in 100+ Linux Things you Need to Know

Youtube tip everyone needs to now: remove the si query parameter, it’s not necessary and used for tracking

From

https://youtu.be/LKCVKw9CzFo?si=06X6O91R9pX_8UbX

Into

https://youtu.be/LKCVKw9CzFo

https://youtu.be/LKCVKw9CzFo

infeeeee ,

Firefox can remove it automatically if you use the "copy without tracking" option in the rightclick menu. It works on thr url bar and on any links on any websites not just on yt.

DmMacniel ,
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Mhm, would be cool if firefox would also offer a "open link without site tracking" in the contextmenu.

catculation ,
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There's an extension for that which remove tracking queries automatically

dadarobot OP ,
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Good looking out. I edited the link.

Devorlon , in how the tables transitioned
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After-sex related tech meme

After-sex cuddling? None of that hun, my open source project written in #rust is calling #grindset #opensource #foss #meme

From the source

graphito OP ,

thanks, I originally included the source in the body

Devorlon ,
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This is reddit Lemmy, no one looks at the source.

possiblylinux127 , in how the tables transitioned
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I'm so confused

Itdidnttrickledown , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.

I've never used it. Its like all the others though and I have been forced to use snaps. Those I slowly replace every time I decide to start fresh.

onlinepersona , in how the tables transitioned

Wat?

festnt ,

me too

sp3tr4l ,

Presumably, the individual themself is transitioning sexes while they are also transitioning tables of one format to another, maybe T SQL ot PostGres, who knows, could be tables in any kind of language.

amw3i7dwgoblinlabs , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.

False, if it exists in the Linux ecosystem it also exists in AUR

wuphysics87 ,

The broader meta point is that X thing you want isn't the devs job, btw.

SpaceCadet ,
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X thing you want isn’t the devs job

Well, it is if they decide it is, and it isn't if they decide it isn't.

That said, I do appreciate devs who put up native deb or rpm repos for the most common distros.

jeena , in how the tables transitioned
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The cat is working on the command line?

tophneal ,

Per the src, it's post coital coding

graphito OP ,

terminal is a joy for the whole family. Noone is left behind

unexposedhazard ,

I didnt realise that was a cats tail and thought it was a massive bad dragon with the base being the controller behind the cat.

Ziglin ,

I just thought the tail was an arm rest… Please revaluate your life choices/whatever lead to how you identify things on desks.

unexposedhazard ,

Boring ass prude

bruhduh , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.
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Skyflare , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.

Bottle's developers disagree with this meme

tiziodcaio ,
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I cannot use bottles since months due to their faltpak monogamy policy :/

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

..explain? It literally has Flatpak as first-class support, i.e. it's guaranteed and only guaranteed to work on Flatpak

56_ , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.
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They do? I've always seen that as being up to distro maintainers, and out of control of the devs.

superminerJG , in Flatpak haters seem to believe that if an app isn't on their distro's repos, it's the developers' fault.

And this, this is why I love the AUR

corsicanguppy , (Bearbeitet )

I think no one said it needs to be ON a distro's repos. That's a straw man.

A package should be available in a native package format in a way that doesn't cause conflict with what's in the official repo. The reasons for a single source of truth on installed status should be obvious; but given the format of some packaging and the signed assurance of provenance, thr advantages to a native format can be leaves ahead of even that.

Wow, is this meme a really naive take that is contradicted by - oh god, everything. Can someone know about enterprise Linux and also be this naive?

kuberoot ,

The responsibility to figure out the dependencies and packaging for distros, and then maintain those going forwards, should not be placed on the developer. If a developer wants to do that, then that's fine - but if a developer just wants to provide source with solid build instructions, and then provide a flatpak, maybe an appimage, then that's also perfectly fine.

In a sense, developers shouldn't even be trusted to manage packaging for distributions - it's usually not their area of expertise, maintainers of specific distributions will usually know better.

raspberriesareyummy ,

While I agree that developers (like myself) are not necessarily experts at packaging stuff, to conclude that it's fine that a developer provides a flatpak is promoting shitty software.
Whether a software should run in a jail, or within user space is a decision that - for most use cases - should be made by the user.

There is absolutely no reason not to provide software as a tar.gz source code archive with a proper makefile & documentation of dependencies - or automake configuration if that's preferred.

From that kind of delivery, any package maintainer can easily build a distro-package.

kuberoot ,

I think you're actually agreeing with me here. I was disputing the claim that software should be made available in "a native package format", and my counterpoint is that devs shouldn't be packaging things for distros, and instead providing source code with build instructions, alongside whatever builds they can comfortably provide - primarily flatpak and appimage, in my example.

I don't use flatpak, and I prefer to use packages with my distro's package manager, but I definitely can't expect every package to be available in that format. Flatpak and appimage, to my knowledge, are designed to be distro-agnostic and easily distributed by the software developer, so they're probably the best options - flatpak better for long-term use, appimage usable for quickly trying out software or one-off utilities.

As for tar.gz, these days software tends to be made available on GitHub and similar platforms, where you can fetch the source from git by commit, and releases also have autogenerated source downloads. Makefiles/automake isn't a reasonable expectation these days, with a plethora of languages and build toolchains, but good, clear instructions are definitely something to include.

raspberriesareyummy ,

Makefiles/automake isn’t a reasonable expectation these days, with a plethora of languages and build toolchains, but good, clear instructions are definitely something to include.

As for the Makefiles, I meant that for whatever build toolchain the project uses - because the rules to build a project are an essential part of the project, linking the source code into a working library or executable. Whether it is cmake, or gnu make, or whatever else there is - that's not so important as long as those build toolchains are available cross platforms.

I think what is really missing in the open source world is a distribution-agnostic standard how to describe application dependencies so that package maintainers can auto-generate distro-packages with the distribution-specific dependencies based on that "dependencies" file.

Similar to debian dependencies
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 10.2.1)
but in a way that identifies code modules, not packages, so that distributions that package software together differently will still be able to identy
findPackageFor( dependency )

I would really like to add this kind of info to my projects and have a tool that can auto-build a repo-package from those.

rozodru ,

"oh this is a flatpak or hell even a windows exe..." proceeds to search for it on AUR "ah there it is, wonderful!"

Hell I've found a god damn windows gaming cheat trainer on AUR and it worked.

lemmyvore ,

The AUR is basically just a script that describes best case scenario for building something under Arch. They don't have any specific quality rules they have to meet.

It's super easy to make and publish an AUR script compared to a regular distro package (including Arch packages).

superminerJG ,

Usually they work well enough, especially things that just involve repacking binaries (e.g. printer drivers)

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