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MonkderDritte , in Btw, I don't use Arch

Yeah, no. Windows is the easy starter but the more you get experience, the more you fight the system.
Or you go the Linux approach and set your tooling up from start via third-parties from Chocolatey/Scoop.Guess the red line represents this.

sntx , in Btw, I don't use Arch

For anyone worried about the Nix drama, a fork has already happened.

You can find it under lix.systems.

unlawfulbooger ,

Thank you, was wondering what happened there.

thedeadwalking4242 ,

There's been a couple forks but that's not all. They are made votes to massively restructure their governance system. Things are looking up on the main nixos branch!

Aggravationstation , in idk i use tty

Idk I manually flip bits on the processor with an electron gun

sag OP ,
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sxan ,
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MMME > CCCT

Chording Causes Carpel Tunnel

Modal Makes Magnificent Experience

cows_are_underrated ,

Theres always a relevant xkcd

StarlightDust , in Btw, I don't use Arch

I don't think I will ever feel comfortable learning NixOS since they accepted a sponsorship from Anduril until there was community backlash. Anduril performs violent border survailence for the US government and are responsible for a huge amount of death and suffering.

hendrik , in Btw, I don't use Arch

The axis don't make sense.

SirSamuel ,

The original comic was about the learning curve of various games. The black line represents Dwarf Fortress

The original comic was very accurate

Bosht ,

I have Dwarf Fortress on my wishlist and while it's cheap to pick up...yeah that looks like X4 levels of complexity but in 2d. Not sure if I'll ever be ready for that, haha.

onlinepersona , in Btw, I don't use Arch

NixOS documentation refusing to generate pages like readthedocs can drive a man insane...

Anti Commercial-AI license

Hawk ,

NixOS documentation refusing to generate pages like readthedocs can drive a man insane...

Spiralvortexisalie , in how the tables transitioned

As I understood it, the stereotype is guy linuxes all day, and here we have expectations subverted.

OldChicoAle ,

We are all linuxing today

muntedcrocodile , in Btw, I don't use Arch

Well i do need to do a quick ol distro hop cos currently on manjaro and well im not particularly happy with it. I like debian headless on mer server so might jump to sonthing based on that, this graph isnt making nix look like a good choice tho pls enlighten me to the benefits

iarigby ,

manjaro was terrible when I used it (several years ago), imo it is fundamentally broken. I would suggest trying a smoother arch install. I always recommend endeavoros because I had an effortless experience with it.

aStonedSanta ,

Still using endeavor? I’m using nobara with a catchyos kernel right now lol

potajito ,

Just get endevour for a good arch experience without the hassle.

IllIIllIllIIIIl ,

It's basically idiot proof.

BCsven ,

Arch from scratch installed fine for me and ran great. EndevourOS threw errors during install and the desktop was littered with random popup errors...tried it twice a few years apart and Endevour was a poor experience with a janky looking UI

lemmyvore ,

If you don't already know the benefits it's unlikely it solves a problem you have.

Even among its users many are using it because it's cool rather than because they actually need it.

It's a declarative system, meaning you can describe how it should be setup (using a magic strings you have to look up online) and then it "sets up itself" according to the description.

It's normally something you'd use for mass and/or repetitive deployments.

It's usefulness for a single system is debatable, considering you can achieve very close to 100% of "reproducibility" anyway by copying /home and /etc and fetching a copy of the package list.

Where the prescriptive approach is supposed to help is when you attempt to reproduce the system a long time later, after things like config files and packages have changed. But it doesn't help with /home, it hasn't been tested over long intervals, and in fact nobody guarantees long term compatibility for Nix state.

recarsion , in Btw, I don't use Arch

I have no idea how Windows is the red line in this, it should be the green but even steeper

acockworkorange , in Btw, I don't use Arch

Windows is decidedly the green line, Debian the red.

Anti_Face_Weapon ,

100% true

Reucnalts ,

Was thinking same. I always think windows is the easiest to get used from beginning, but that could be cause windows was the first operating system i was dealing with. Playing with the amiga 3000 could be the start, but there i was only 5

Ziglin ,

Windows XP wasn't exactly intuitive to me and now only I know what my keybinds for Hyprland are so um maybe you're right. Honestly switching to Ubuntu made things a lot easier for me than they were on windows because it was easier to change settings and similar just by using terminal commands rather than a weird gui or not at all.

Ozymandias1688 , in Btw, I don't use Arch

Does this graph mean what it is supposed to mean for the joke to work? The black line means I learn much quicker with less time investment, i.e. it is easier than all the others.

Anti_Face_Weapon ,

No it means that it requires much more skill earlier in the progression.

Ozymandias1688 ,

That is a common misunderstanding of how learning curves work. A steep learning curve means your skill increases more rapidly with the invested time. That means the subject is easier or more intuitive.

brrt ,

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  • Ozymandias1688 ,

    'If you change the axis then it makes sense' is not a great argument 🙂 but it does not matter, it is just a joke after all, so let's not argue. Have a nice day y'all!

    brrt ,

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  • Deckweiss ,

    Huh? I thought the original chart means I get more gaming skill from playing EVE than from playing WoW - which totally makes sense

    Reucnalts ,

    You nearly had it. The black line starts higher at "gaining skill" so it requires more skill to start learning but after short time you are gaining much more skill in the same time.

    Kusimulkku ,

    It says "gaming skill", not "gaining skill". Whoever edited it forgot to edit that and "time playing".

    Reucnalts ,

    Damn cant read, thanks

    kenkenken , in 100+ Linux Things you Need to Know
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    Only 101?

    kenkenken , in Btw, I don't use Arch
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    After using Silverblue for some time I tried to use Arch again, and pacman had failed at installation process. A easy fix for that is to be like: 1. Get list of all the installed packages; 2. Install all these packages again with --force. But after using immutables the situation is just meh.

    And also now I dislike package managers which require to be used with sudo, and cannot ask for permissions with polkit.

    So. BTW, I don't use Arch.

    Manmoth ,

    Is the package manager as extensive as arch? Does it have an AUR equivalent? I've been wanting to try Nix or GUIX for a while.

    Wofls ,
    gunpachi ,

    It's been just over a month using Fedora silverblue (Ublue ) for me and the experience has been pretty good.

    What I do is just setup a distrobox container with the arch image and install software using paru from AUR. So far this workflow has been working really well. for me.

    Also if you decide to use any Ublue spin, you'll also get homebrew pre-installed. So that can also be considered as an alternative option to AUR.

    WalnutLum , in Btw, I don't use Arch

    I use guix cause having an entire OS centered around Scheme is cool and based.

    Wearing out the parentheses keys on my keyboard

    noproblemmy ,

    Do you happen to know if KDE is already available there?

    WalnutLum ,
    Allero ,

    What's the difference? You mean a DE is available but not the base software?

    MonkderDritte ,

    Wasn't it something like, KDE was the distro and desktop name but now the desktop is Plasma?

    laurelraven ,

    Unless I'm missing something, Plasma is the KDE desktop, there isn't a separate desktop environment just called KDE... In fact, it's full name is KDE Plasma, it's just frequently shortened to either KDE or Plasma

    Allero ,

    Cool, though mileage will vary considering guix is linux-libre

    greywolf0x1 ,

    You can use non-guix

    Allero ,

    I can and do, of course!

    The point was only about guix

    Or do you mean I can change kernel to non-libre?

    Baleine ,
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    Yes, just like with many distros you can add external repositories. Nonguix is a repository with non-free software like the linux kernel and binary firmware

    Allero ,

    Will check out, thank you!

    Manifish_Destiny , in Btw, I don't use Arch

    LFS would be a much better fit.

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