Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

Wait, there's someone here aware of hardened gentoo? Well I'll be damned! Come out of the shadows, fellas!

bitwaba ,

I'm always hard when someone talks about Gentoo!

Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

Excuse me, sir, it's the Gentoo bits that are supposed to be hard, not yours.

On an unrelated note - I'm building a binhost. Currently stuck on trying to figure out a way of building packages without instaling them and not using quickpkg>

bitwaba ,

That does sound hard!

rapechildren ,

https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=-HkErc-xfRK

germanatlas ,
@germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What if we discuss Debian?

foggy ,

You're smart just not an elitist.

platypus_plumba ,

What if I use Ubuntu but I'd rather talk about the kernel than distros?

bitwaba ,

Is that before or after you talk about unity not being that bad?

Emerald ,

I loved the Amazon spyware Ubuntu days

platypus_plumba ,

Yeha, mistakes have been made but I guess those are understandable for the biggest distro. But that's the past. We can always switch between distros when needed. Atm Ubuntu is fine.

foggy ,

Idk did you stan for 24.06 or are you still a reasonable person like "why that OS so big?"

platypus_plumba ,

I honestly just want to enjoy Linux. If I'm concerned about what happens in every update, I won't enjoy it.

So I leave the worrying to other people. If something really bad happens that I need to know about, I'll probably hear about it on these communities.

"Ubuntu did this crazy thing!!!"

Google -> how to disable this crazy thing?

disables the crazy thing

So far I haven't been hacked (almost 7 years using it) or murdered by the phantom of the bloat. Everything works fine. The only issues I've had are Nvidia related. Fuck Nvidia.

Ubuntu literally delivers the promise of a user friendly experience, which is what I want. I don't want to obsess about the libraries or Init system my distro uses. I just want it to work. I'll let other amazing minds to worry about the philosophy and technical aspects while I just cruise.

I know I can relax thanks to other people who really worry and want everything to be perfect. I'm really grateful with them, I just don't want to be them.

foggy ,

My concern when I see bloat is "what are you hiding?"

And to me it represents the possibility that Ubuntu with Firefox is trying to make a marketable OS, which is just Windows with extra steps.

But overall I hear you. I daily drive Ubuntu 22.04, Ubuntu Server 22.04, Debian 12.5 and Windows 11 (sigh)

platypus_plumba ,

That's exactly what Canonical is trying to do. They are trying to create a system with all the batteries included so people don't need to worry about installing extra stuff, which means that of course they'll have a bunch of bloat if you don't use everything they offer, which is probably the case.

Their end goal is to be able to push this to the masses and maybe one day be able to get compensation for their effort.

I wouldn't mind if Ubuntu becomes a Microsoft Windows-like product. If that's what it takes to steal people from the claws of Microsoft, I'm OK with that. That would mean that hardware manufacturers will start developing specialized drivers for their hardware in Linux. To this day, in freaking 2024, I need to have a Windows image in order to configure my headset and mouse because developing the interfaces for Linux is pointless for these companies.

We still have like 50 other distros we can use. Let Ubuntu be that bridge to bring more users to Linux.

foggy ,

I know it. Anyone who was alive in the 90s knows it.

But I usually get downvotes to hell because Firefox is the current best popular browser so fanboys gonna stan.

moon ,

Then you're in an elderly home

LesserAbe ,

Boooooo to this post

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

People should be talking about void. Such bullshit. :p

Prunebutt ,

Called it!

SkybreakerEngineer ,

But how can you talk about it if it has no type and no defined sizeof

Cassa ,
@Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yea, no thanks - "the grind" mindset is just capitalism worming itself into your brain

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

yup, but the meme makes fun of that mindset and the original meme template in my opinion

fine_sandy_bottom ,

We live in a capitalist society though.

SidewaysHighways ,

This is real. This is why my friends are lame now. Not the kids or jobs.

They're still on Windows

kittenzrulz123 ,

They also all need to be using librebooted computers (Thinkpad and Optiplex)

Emerald ,

s/librebooted/canoebooted/

it's honestly quite strange. The Libreboot term has been known for years to refer to the fully free bios project. Then they merged osboot and Libreboot so now libreboot contains proprietary blobs. Then they decided to make a new project canoeboot, which is basically the new libreboot.

so they went from having:

  • osboot
  • libreboot

to having:

  • canoeboot
  • libreboot

All they seemed to have done is confuse.

kittenzrulz123 ,

Canoeboot was made as a joke to make fun of OSS enthusiasts.

ashestoashes ,

corebooted chromebooks are more libre

kittenzrulz123 ,

The problem is installing Linux on them is a nightmare and bring a risk of bricking them.

ashestoashes ,

also a lot of them have soldered storage of like 16 gigs, which just isn't enough for most ppl

Prunebutt ,

Where Nix/Lix/Auxolotl/NixOS?

sus OP ,

there was only space for 5 things ( *** Debloat Mindset *** )

Prunebutt ,

I'll allow it. But I can't promise anything from the void crowd.

NationProtons ,

I’m running NixOs as a daily driver for a while now. It’s the first time I want to actively convince people to try out a distro. But then I realise most people around me would not want to bother learning how to configure it.

Prunebutt , (Bearbeitet )

Same. It's very elegant. But yeah: the lacking documentation makes the learning curve way too steep for most people.

robocall ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

I am the Excel/Ubuntu person 😳

Tylerdurdon ,

I still love you

where_am_i ,

Meh. I'd say we tie him to a post and burn the heretic.

summerof69 ,

But with love.

Sunny ,
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

Just a tad.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

and have the machines running rocky linux

brbposting ,

Google Sheets/MacOS

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

"Rewrite the internet in C"

Prunebutt ,

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/abb4261f-e828-441f-bc88-af3d05f036f1.webp

sandalbucket ,

We could call it … WebAssembly! And now it’s a C compilation target, which means we can run Node.js in the browser, to get a javascript runtime :)

Prunebutt ,

Isn't that the other way around? Developing for the web in assembly is not the same as running assembly on a browser.

emptiestplace ,

It could be the same.

Aux ,

Usually when people are talking about web development in assembly they mean development back end applications.

feedmecontent ,

Does node have wasm support yet? Corporations have been looking for a way to stack performance degradation on the web to an arbitrary degree. The Node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running in the browser stack could get so hot.

summerof69 ,

Web Development With Assembly

O'NO

FatTony ,
@FatTony@lemmy.world avatar

Why does this look so authentic?

Feathercrown ,

This would somehow be worse than JS

NounsAndWords ,

I only take on gross work, as per rhyming conventions gross work is your gross worth.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Nah, that way, I can be the Alpha-Nerd in my circle, getting all the clout when I help them out with a command-line-command that contains awk.

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