possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

"Rewrite the internet in C"

Prunebutt ,
sandalbucket ,

We could call it … WebAssembly! And now it’s a C compilation target, which means we can run Node.js in the browser, to get a javascript runtime :)

Prunebutt ,

Isn't that the other way around? Developing for the web in assembly is not the same as running assembly on a browser.

emptiestplace ,

It could be the same.

Aux ,

Usually when people are talking about web development in assembly they mean development back end applications.

feedmecontent ,

Does node have wasm support yet? Corporations have been looking for a way to stack performance degradation on the web to an arbitrary degree. The Node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running on node running on wasm running in the browser stack could get so hot.

summerof69 ,

Web Development With Assembly

O'NO

FatTony ,
@FatTony@lemmy.world avatar

Why does this look so authentic?

Feathercrown ,

This would somehow be worse than JS

kittenzrulz123 ,

They also all need to be using librebooted computers (Thinkpad and Optiplex)

Emerald ,

s/librebooted/canoebooted/

it's honestly quite strange. The Libreboot term has been known for years to refer to the fully free bios project. Then they merged osboot and Libreboot so now libreboot contains proprietary blobs. Then they decided to make a new project canoeboot, which is basically the new libreboot.

so they went from having:

  • osboot
  • libreboot

to having:

  • canoeboot
  • libreboot

All they seemed to have done is confuse.

kittenzrulz123 ,

Canoeboot was made as a joke to make fun of OSS enthusiasts.

ashestoashes ,

corebooted chromebooks are more libre

kittenzrulz123 ,

The problem is installing Linux on them is a nightmare and bring a risk of bricking them.

ashestoashes ,

also a lot of them have soldered storage of like 16 gigs, which just isn't enough for most ppl

Fleur__ ,
@Fleur__@lemmy.world avatar

Are you using this format in an un-ironic way?... Why

sus OP ,

nah, but in hindsight it may be a bit too subtle

VirtualOdour ,

Ah, yes, ANOTHER post trying to make Linux seem impenetrable and elitist with an attack on Ubuntu - I swear you guys must work for Microsoft.

summerof69 ,

Ah, yes, another user offended by a joke posted to a community with memes.

DriftinGrifter ,

average 5 year ubuntu user

VirtualOdour ,

Stalks my post history to find out I use Ubuntu for my daily driver. Didn't mention I've been using Linux since before the twin towers fell and am a long term open source dev and contributor...

Almost like you purposely chose to be deceptive or something. I know it wasn't a choice though, this kind of immorality comes naturally to you and maybe you're not even aware of it. You should try and work on it though, you'll be amazed how much better a life of radical self awareness is.

AnxiousOtter ,

Didn’t mention I’ve been using Linux since before the twin towers fell

Is this supposed to be some kind of flex? Average user age on lemmy is more than old enough for the majority of users to have been using linux pre 9-11.

am a long term open source dev and contributor…

That is a flex, kudos. I've been dreaming about contributing to an open source project for a while now.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

After having to use Ubuntu at work for > 1 year, I find it hard to endure. But of course, maybe it was just the computers being slow, except for Debian KDE working perfectly well on them.

VirtualOdour ,

You should, a great place to start is helping write documentation. A lot of big projects have groups that work on creating user guides and api info, some programming experience is normally required but not as much as when contributing code so it's a great way of building understanding and confidence.

cows_are_underrated ,

That's also one of my goals. I started recently with contributing to open street maps to complete the entries for my local village.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

i think i have a 2 day streak of the twin towers being mentioned in a day.

VirtualOdour ,

Isn't it embarrassing using the same excuses as every 4chan racist and misogynist?

You're affecting how people perceive Linux and doing so in a negative way, I'm not going to try and stop you or anything but I am going to say I think you're a bad person working against all the efforts and hard work of people trying to make a better world.

How you feel about it is upto you.

Oh and of course this was just a joke so you have to laugh and agree, right?

sus OP ,

This is not a joke. If you don't wake up at 4 am to start harassing windows users, you will never become a GNU/Linux Trillionaire.

summerof69 ,

I simply envy you because you live in some world where this is the problem worth discussing and getting angry. Or your head is full of shit. It's probably the latter, given that you put people joking about Arch Linux to the same category as racists and misogynists. In this case, I don't envy, but pity you.

VirtualOdour ,

I clearly didn't put them in the same category, I said they use the same defensive arguing tactic to justify their toxic bahviour.

And no its not THE problem, I'm able to post a comment on a thread without it totally consuming my life.

summerof69 ,

🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡

Ozone6363 ,

What the fuck even is this meme lmao?

Me and OP can compare paychecks, I've never used Linux in my life.

sus OP ,

Paychecks? I am a self-made billionaire, all thanks to the Free Software Grindset

lemmylem ,

OP and I*

I've never used Linux in my life

Acktually, it's GNU/Linux, Linux is just the kernel :)

ultra ,

Ubuntu sucks. Not because it's for newbies, it's because better, new user friendlier options like mint exist.

lemmylem ,

Ubuntu is spyware.

VirtualOdour ,

Pure FUD

lemmylem , (Bearbeitet )

They're owned by a for-profit company, they collect data on you by default, they've already had privacy issues in the past, and they include non-free software by default. I would rather have a beginner start off with Debian or Trisquel. We shouldn't be trapping people into these distros because then they'll potentially get too comfortable and not make the switch. This is coming from someone who did start off on Ubuntu. Sure, it's more convenient, but we should be teaching people to value freedom over convenience. Even if the data collection is minimal, it's still data.

germanatlas ,
@germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What if we discuss Debian?

foggy ,

You're smart just not an elitist.

platypus_plumba ,

What if I use Ubuntu but I'd rather talk about the kernel than distros?

bitwaba ,

Is that before or after you talk about unity not being that bad?

Emerald ,

I loved the Amazon spyware Ubuntu days

platypus_plumba ,

Yeha, mistakes have been made but I guess those are understandable for the biggest distro. But that's the past. We can always switch between distros when needed. Atm Ubuntu is fine.

foggy ,

Idk did you stan for 24.06 or are you still a reasonable person like "why that OS so big?"

platypus_plumba ,

I honestly just want to enjoy Linux. If I'm concerned about what happens in every update, I won't enjoy it.

So I leave the worrying to other people. If something really bad happens that I need to know about, I'll probably hear about it on these communities.

"Ubuntu did this crazy thing!!!"

Google -> how to disable this crazy thing?

disables the crazy thing

So far I haven't been hacked (almost 7 years using it) or murdered by the phantom of the bloat. Everything works fine. The only issues I've had are Nvidia related. Fuck Nvidia.

Ubuntu literally delivers the promise of a user friendly experience, which is what I want. I don't want to obsess about the libraries or Init system my distro uses. I just want it to work. I'll let other amazing minds to worry about the philosophy and technical aspects while I just cruise.

I know I can relax thanks to other people who really worry and want everything to be perfect. I'm really grateful with them, I just don't want to be them.

foggy ,

My concern when I see bloat is "what are you hiding?"

And to me it represents the possibility that Ubuntu with Firefox is trying to make a marketable OS, which is just Windows with extra steps.

But overall I hear you. I daily drive Ubuntu 22.04, Ubuntu Server 22.04, Debian 12.5 and Windows 11 (sigh)

platypus_plumba ,

That's exactly what Canonical is trying to do. They are trying to create a system with all the batteries included so people don't need to worry about installing extra stuff, which means that of course they'll have a bunch of bloat if you don't use everything they offer, which is probably the case.

Their end goal is to be able to push this to the masses and maybe one day be able to get compensation for their effort.

I wouldn't mind if Ubuntu becomes a Microsoft Windows-like product. If that's what it takes to steal people from the claws of Microsoft, I'm OK with that. That would mean that hardware manufacturers will start developing specialized drivers for their hardware in Linux. To this day, in freaking 2024, I need to have a Windows image in order to configure my headset and mouse because developing the interfaces for Linux is pointless for these companies.

We still have like 50 other distros we can use. Let Ubuntu be that bridge to bring more users to Linux.

foggy ,

I know it. Anyone who was alive in the 90s knows it.

But I usually get downvotes to hell because Firefox is the current best popular browser so fanboys gonna stan.

moon ,

Then you're in an elderly home

Emerald ,

Why does nobody just use a basic Gentoo setup? Compiling custom kernels and using tons of use flags And cflags isn't actually going to make your PC faster. Just install the distribution kernel and use march=native.

Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

Because that requires actually understanding the way a computer works.

NationProtons ,

Man, I wish there were more people around me who cared about discussing Linux and open source software. Only one person I know actually understands it, but he’s still running windows for games and programming.

Prunebutt ,

windows [...] programming.

thefuck.jpeg

Crack0n7uesday ,

People drink the Microsoft Kool aid, it's called money, they generally want it.

stoicmaverick ,

Plebs...

drathvedro ,

It is said that the true linux developer can survive for months at a time on nothing but a piece of dead skin from a callus on his foot and the energy of the community-maintained free and open-source software

PlexSheep ,

They have been taken by the dark side.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I still use Windows as my main computer, partially because I got this computer before getting into linux and have built up a lot files on it, and because I have a WMR VR headset that doesn't currently have controller support on the open source drivers (maybe once Microsoft kills WMR with the next windows version I'll switch)

NationProtons ,

Yeah. He even has a server rack at home. But still uses windows for all his devices. Luckily he’s not crazy enough to run windows server.

lud ,

Windows is the most common operating system for developers

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-technologies-operating-system

Visual studio which the the most used IDE after Visual Studio Code is only available on Windows and Mac.

The Mac version will soon be retired though.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

Then you‘re definitely in the wrong circle. Join a local computer club if that exists. Changes things dramatically.

NationProtons ,

That sounds pretty nice actually. I’m based in Sydney, but I don’t really find anything like a computer club nearby.

Maybe i just don’t know how to search for it.

cows_are_underrated ,

Luckily I even know 2 persons who are into Linux and FOSS.

lemmylem ,

We don't use open-source around here pardner.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

Barack_Embalmer ,

I like Ubuntu 😐

lemmyvore ,

And turtles?

toaster ,
@toaster@slrpnk.net avatar

Don't worry, once the others graduate school, break their arch install, and don't have the free time to reinstall it, they'll like Ubuntu too. 🙂

Barack_Embalmer ,

TBF I'm branching out and I just installed Debian on my second laptop and I like that too. But Ubuntu's been mighty good to me for a lot of years as a reliable workstation and server VM in Proxmox.

Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

Wait, there's someone here aware of hardened gentoo? Well I'll be damned! Come out of the shadows, fellas!

bitwaba ,

I'm always hard when someone talks about Gentoo!

Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

Excuse me, sir, it's the Gentoo bits that are supposed to be hard, not yours.

On an unrelated note - I'm building a binhost. Currently stuck on trying to figure out a way of building packages without instaling them and not using quickpkg>

bitwaba ,

That does sound hard!

porksoda ,

Since this is sort of related, what are y'all using for a tiling manager? I really miss Fancy Zones from Windows and would literally pay for a clone on Linux Mint.

NationProtons ,

Hyprland seems pretty popular these days. I want to use it (or sway) but didn’t have the chance to figure out how to run it with my nvidia card

QuazarOmega , (Bearbeitet )

For a GUI thing like that, KDE has had it since 5.27: announcment called Window Tiling, with its graphical Tile Editor that by default is opened with Meta+T
Some discussion on Reddit prior inclusion

porksoda ,

Thanks, I'll check this out.

ktowner15 ,

FancyZones was great, now I use Pop!_OS's tiling feature. It's a bit different, but I like the additional keybinds for controlling window movement.

Moshpirit ,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

Jokes on you! I'm older than 30!

Shadowq8 ,

honestly open source software is important.

I am a Microsoft user (sorry) but don't think my company will allow use of other programs due to software policy.

Is there an open soursce excel and powerbi / powerpoint thing ?

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

LibreOffice Calc is pretty good. Your company can invest in a fork and it should do what you need.

Failx ,

Power BI is a different kind of beast though. Soon only available as part of Microsoft Fabric, a SaaS analysis platform. Sure, the technically inclined can use Python/R/Julia with MongoDB, a set of SQL DBs, some CI and Plotly/Dash, but that effectively requires to have some Software- and Data Engineers on staff and some dedicated machines/VMs.
Power BI / Fabric is much cheaper for small to medium sized companies outside of IT.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

Thats interesting! Thanks for elaborating.

I have never heard of it so I cant say if there is an alternative but I‘m pretty sure being vendor locked like this is MUCH more expensive than using a more complicated bit open solution in the long term.

Aux ,

Open source enterprise solutions are pretty much non-existent, thus it's never cheaper to go open source.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

Feel free to show a usecase where that is the case. the actual cost and opportunity cost of a vendor lock in is quite severe.

Aux ,

I mean Power BI is an example in this thread. Or any software that requires an ISO certification. Or any industrial application like CAD. Basically any piece of software which cannot be used for a hobby doesn't have an open source alternative. And even some hobbies don't really have alternatives. I mean I would love to replace Fusion 360 with something open source, but FreeCAD is a joke.

brbposting ,

Neat

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/f180804a-14fa-403e-846a-b9fd1273ce1b.jpeg

Thanks for a free answer you could charge somebody for :)

robocall ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

I am the Excel/Ubuntu person 😳

Tylerdurdon ,

I still love you

where_am_i ,

Meh. I'd say we tie him to a post and burn the heretic.

summerof69 ,

But with love.

Sunny ,
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

Just a tad.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

and have the machines running rocky linux

brbposting ,

Google Sheets/MacOS

Phegan ,

20-30 is too old for Leo to be concerned with.

Zink ,

Well you’re half right, lol.

daniskarma ,

If you are not talking about the past, present and future of Hannah Montana Linux I'm not even talking to you.

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