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TwoGems , an Memes in Defediverse
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You can't tolerate nazis or tankies. Bad reasoning altogether. Look at the state the USA is in right now because we decided to tolerate fascists.

Aabbcc ,

One of those groups is white supremacists and the other wants to stop genociding the global south. That seems like a fine comparison to you?

atrielienz , an Memes in Defediverse

No offense but this is kind of what happens in real life too. Nazi shows up to local bar. Barman or owner doesn't throw them out. Eventually they invite their friends. It winds up being known a Nazi bar. People who don't want to associate with Nazis no longer visit the bar. This is why intolerance of the intolerant is a thing.

qyron , an Memes in Defediverse

It's intriguing how everyone that views themselves as moderates/liberals forget (or are unacquainted with it) about the paradox of tolerance.

Tolerance implies everyone has a right to express their ideas and you want that. You want everything out in the open, so you can pick at it, dismantle it and render it pitiful, ridiculous and useless.

You want the intolerant crying out loud that you are intolerant as that means you are doing the right thing. The intolerant want silence, forced, while the tolerant want noise, anger, tension.

Remember that anything worthwhile needs to be fought for. Don't regret being vocal and harsh towards intolerance.

yata ,

That is a pretty ironic comment because that is not what the paradox of tolerance is at all. The paradox of tolerance is that intolerance needs to be suppressed for tolerance to exist, since tolerance can't exist alongside intolerance.

The paradox is that tolerance needs to be intolerant towards intolerance in order for a tolerant society to exist, literally the exact opposite of what you wrote.

Feathercrown , an Memes in Defediverse

I'm so glad that the comments have (mostly) finally unified in agreement that defederating Nazis and other hideous people is the right move.

AlexWIWA ,

I'm not up to date on the drama. Who got defeded?

ThePac , an Memes in Defediverse

What a simple, stupid argument.

Cqrd ,

You can’t enter a discussion with somebody who’s just trying to bombard you into submission. OP is wildly ignorant or just somebody sad they’re being defederated on a different account.

lvxferre , an Memes in Defediverse
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This post assumes that a meaningful amount of defed instances are caused by simple lack of agreement. Often, it's an orthogonal matter - it boils down to instance A actually understanding something about the userbase of instance B and saying "I'm not dealing with this shit, it'll make the instance worse for its own users". For example: the typical user of B might be disingenuous, or preach immoral prescriptions, behave like a chimp, or be a bloody stupid piece of trash that should've stayed in Reddit to avoid smearing its stupidity everywhere here.

Are instance admins too eager to pull the trigger for defed? Perhaps, in some cases; specially because it handles groups of users instead of individuals. But those cases are better addressed through actual examples, not through a meme talking on generic grounds.

ZoomeristLeninist , an Memes in Defediverse
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lol its this shit every time libs see a legitimate left stance. im assuming you’ve seen the sh.itjust.works defed post. its like 5 super vocal users having a conniption fit that there are communists on the internet

yukichigai , an Memes in Defediverse
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Yes, let's enter discussion with the literal Nazis so we can try to understand them. There might be nuance to their calls for mass genocide.

Fuck off OP.

Norgur ,

HiTlEr WaSn'T aLl BaD

gullible ,

Hitler wasn’t all bad. After all, he did kill Hitler.

Fried_out_Kombi ,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

It's funny how people always use play it like "oh, it's just differing opinions" when what they're actually defending is indefensible malarkey like nazis and tankies. They know if they made a meme saying we should "try to understand" nazis and tankies, they'd be downvoted to oblivion. And so they hide behind a shield of "differing opinions".

These cretins have a right to post nazi and tankie shit on their own instances -- them's the beauty of the fediverse. But I also have a right to not want hate speech, genocide denial, and Hitler/Stalin/Mao simps polluting my feed. It's not mere "differing opinions" when one person's opinion is "Holodomor didn't happen, and if it did, the Ukrainians deserved it" or "Holocaust didn't happen, and if it did, the Jews deserved it" or whatever apologia they wanna peddle.

Lizardking27 , an Memes in Defediverse

Lmao "try and understand them" fuck off, OP. You're not fooling anyone. There's no point trying to understand assholes.

OhStopYellingAtMe , an Memes in Defediverse
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Fuck that. Defederate all Nazis.

starman2112 ,
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More like de-head-erate all nazis lmao

tubaruco , an linuxmemes in I'm a walking stereotype.

i like how theres the stereotype of being a:

  • fat man who lives in their parents basement
  • femboy with programmer socks
  • furry

and all of that just for arch/gentoo users

wildbus8979 ,

Everyone knows us Debian wooks all live in yurts and attend monthly struggle sessions.

deathbird , an Memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser

What do you mean it's only IPAs here?

Why there's also Double IPAs, triple IPAs, quad IPAs, Imperial IPAs, every kind of fruit-infused IPAs, hazy IPAs, seasonal IPAs, limited edition IPAs, New England style IPA, West Coast Style IPAs, wheat IPAs, rye IPAs, oat IPAs, Session IPAs, red IPAs, and non-alcoholic IPAs.

And if none of that appeals to you we also have a limited edition seasonal dry-hopped pils that according to the menu tastes like an IPA.

empireOfLove , an Memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser

Depends where you live. Areas with a smaller craft brew scene do end up with the "nothing but IPA" problem. But where I live in the PNW there's simply so damn many that even with 50% of them being IPA's, you still get a huge selection of other pilsners, stouts, amber ales, hefenweizens... its pretty nice.

chemical_cutthroat ,
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I work for a brewery in Portland, and we'd like to make over varieties, but hazys and IPAs are what sell.

brambledog ,

About 10 years ago it was probably closer to 80% IPAs. It was a big joke here that IPA stands for I Pretend (I'm not an) Alcoholic.

The only reason there is more on the market now is because we all stopped pretending the taste of motor oil with grapefruit gave us a better buzz.

Even now, most breweries will only seem to offer 4 varieties of IPAs, a pilsner/lager and a stout. Maybe an Amber but I feel the Mac & Jack's copycat scene has mostly died out now.

Roundcat , an linuxmemes in enjoy your freedom
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Me: I know, I'll choose..

Linux community: WRONG!!!

joyjoy , an Memes in The only thing this story misses is an eagle somewhere

The story implies she shot herself. Fat kills.

Eheran ,

Indeed. What is up with that?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The person you are most likely to kill with your guns is yourself.

SkyezOpen ,

Not if I kill that bastard first!

balderdash9 ,
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Shit, had to delete my comment because you posted this first. Fucking hell
https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/d57c858f-d5f3-4679-b52b-56fabeda8517.webp

balderdash9 ,
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Gun's dont kill people. Sentient fat rolls kill people. Stay away from food kids

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