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kadu , an linuxmemes in Less is more
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Gnome: "you know what we should remove the mouse pointer, users should be familiar enough with computers to just constantly picture and map it mentally anyway this will look much cleaner"

KDE: "hey you just tried to move your mouse, that's cool, let's pop up this panel right on top of the cursor to let you know the cursor is actually an applet and you can connect online to download 45 different types of cursor or replace it with a floating panel, there are also two extra icons next to it but we don't know what they do so if you click them let us know okay bye"

Windows XP: "so here's a mouse cursor, yes it looks like the Windows 95 one. You see, some old programs actually use the leftmost pixel in the cursor to map their memory so if we change it things break"

Windows 11: "welcome to Microsoft 365 Cursor Café, a simple subscription will allow you to move the cursor and you can share it with 5 other family members through OneDrive"

jnk ,

Perfection. I'll add one more:

MacOS: "We had the original mouse and everyone else copied us so, in order to make you feel special and quirky, here have an exclusive inverted wheel mouse. Only 199'99. Your welcome."

platypus_plumba ,

My experience with Mac: "So you'd like to customize your cursor with something every other modern OS already has? Nha... but check this guy's project from the store. It's only $3.99/month for that! Oh, here's a free one with 2 Github stars, it only needs full access to your window manager :)"

MonkderDritte ,

You see, some old programs actually use the leftmost pixel in the cursor to map their memory so if we change it things break"

What?

aBundleOfFerrets ,

Yes

mlg ,
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xfce: "Here's our bi century update. We added some extra mouse pointers that you can choose if you want. Okay see you in 10 years"

savvywolf , an linuxmemes in Year of the Diagonal Linux Desktop, y'all
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The steam deck does have a gyroscope for sensing rotation... Just saying.

TimeSquirrel ,
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That feature has always been annoying to me, even on phones. I always turn it off because "I" will control whether my screen rotates or not. Maybe sometimes I don't want it to rotate when I turn the phone (like when I'm viewing building plans at work and want to orient the screen with how I'm looking at the building I'm standing in).

nekusoul ,
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Not sure how standard this is, but on Pixel phones the default is no auto rotation, but when the phone detects rotation it will display a tiny rotate button in the corner of the screen for just a few seconds. Best of both worlds IMO.

taladar ,

That rotate button is incredibly annoying. I turned off auto-rotate for a reason and the button obscures other information displayed in that corner of the screen. Wish I could turn the button off too.

Rexios ,
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What information is in your navigation bar?

Octopus1348 ,
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funkajunk , an linuxmemes in But the older boys made me do it 🥺
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Fake

Jeom ,
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its from a game or movie trailer if i remember correctly

TimeSquirrel ,
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Its from Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

tourist ,
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yeah, they made a handful of videos of chimps doing human things as a viral marketing campaign.

I 100% fell for the chimp playing far cry 2 because my brain had not yet fully developed into the barely functional serotonin gulag it is today

HouseWolf , an linuxmemes in Your everyday Linux maintenance experience

Honestly my Windows 10 experience wasn't much different.

Atleast I can actually fix most of the issues that pop up on Linux

captain_aggravated ,
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I was struggling to get an OS installed on my cousin's dell at one point. This machine came with that Intel Optane...shit with a spinning rust hard drive, I was replacing it with a straight-up NVMe SSD. Windows would get well into the install process, and then bomb out with an error that was something like 0x123a039f34798cd76eb1 UNDEFINED ERROR. This of course was in the Windows installer, which isn't a functioning desktop environment, so I had to type that manually into my laptop to google it, and got very few results.

I tried Linux Mint, and it apparently had the same problem. It said something like "BIOS Storage config error. Unable to mount file system. It may be that such and such setting is incorrect in the BIOS. See this page for further details." The last sentence was a hyperlink to a wiki that discussed the problem, which opened in Firefox because this installer runs in a live environment, AND IT HAD A QR CODE LINK IN THE ERROR MESSAGE to the same page so you could easily copy the link to an external device. Y'all that was a white glove concierge deep tissue massage of an error message.

SteefLem , an Memes in Modern jeart!
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Qkall , an Memes in Modern jeart!
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Viking_Hippie , an Memes in Modern jeart!

To quote my grandmom (RIP): well, at least it looks like she had fun!

flambonkscious , an Memes in Modern jeart!

This pretty much sums up the recent GenAI+beans trash we've had all year.

Why did you need to encourage them when they'd all forgotten?

MrJameGumb , an Memes in Modern jeart!
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flambonkscious ,

Thank you. I still find that unrealistically funny, you've really softened the blow.

wreckedcarzz , an linuxmemes in It's so similarly pronounced to the SI prefix that it can also be 1000 Manjaros
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Slayer

Running riot!

marcos , an linuxmemes in It's so similarly pronounced to the SI prefix that it can also be 1000 Manjaros

A Kibimanjaro would be 1024.

mokus ,

Kibimanjaro, the user-friendly rolling-release distro for cluster computing

LodeMike , an linuxmemes in Less is more

What's the feature?

0x4E4F OP ,
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Not even the devs know...

onlinepersona , an linuxmemes in It's so similarly pronounced to the SI prefix that it can also be 1000 Manjaros

Kil = church in gaelic --> Kilimanjaro = Church of Manjaro.

Anti Commercial-AI license

WamGams , an linuxmemes in Hey you, you wanna install Linux?

Had a computer that had 16gigs of ram when we first bought it but after a windows reset only shows 8gigs. Was told 8 gigs probably got burned and will need to replace motherboard.

What version of Linux should I install on this machine after my wife gets her own new machine?

mexicancartel ,

Linux 0.71.1

WamGams ,

Would Mint be good? Somebody told me its the most like AndroidOS and works well with touch screen.

mexicancartel ,

Well i was joking previously. But Mint should be great and before installing you can play around in live usb and check if everything works well

WamGams ,

Thanks. I just gotta get my wife to hurry up and buy her own thing.

Darkrai ,
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You can try making a virtual machine with a 20 GB virtual hard drive to try out different Linux distros in the meantime.

WamGams ,

Thanks. I will look into learning how to do this.

Dalaeance , (Bearbeitet )

To make things simpler in the long run, I recommend looking into using Ventoy on a thumb drive, if you'd like to just try out various versions of Linux without installing anything. There are handy guides on YouTube.

mexicancartel ,

You still can make a live USB and check if everything works and play around. Just don't proceed with installation wizard. But remember since its live mode things you save there will not exist(by default) after reboot. Yes you can run linux without installing

WamGams ,

Good to know. Thank you.

I have a proton account so I can just save the files there.

mexicancartel ,

Well that also applies to settings and everything. Its a test environment which have temporary storage till reboot. Even apps you install may not exist. But there is some way that you can make the live environment save changes though, someone else has already suggested you ventoy

melpomenesclevage ,

try cinnamon with mint on a 'live USB' so you can try before installing. and see if your ram is broken, or if windows is fucking you for cheaping out on the license.

andrew_bidlaw ,
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Mint comes in three editions - or with three different Desktop Environments. Think of it like alternative launchers\skins on Android, but more influential on how things work. I believe, some can be better with touchscreens than others out of the box. I'd suggest you to start with a Cinnamon version since it looks more modern and pretty, and with a higher probability of having touchscreen gestures and stuff. All of them are close to Windows in visual design. And since it's Linux, many things can be added or edited afterwards, and be sure someone alresdy asked your question on the web (:

AVincentInSpace , (Bearbeitet )

Okay. The first thing you should understand as a new Linux user is that Linux is fairly modular, and that, apart from what configurations are officially supported and who is in charge of deciding when to publish software updates for you to install, which distribution you choose doesn't really matter. The desktop environment, not the distro, is what determines the look and feel of a Linux install, and you can install whatever desktop environment you want on whatever distro you want (although installing a desktop environment that your USB image didn't come with, in my experience, comes with varying degrees of rough edges depending on the distro -- if you install both GNOME and KDE, for example, you'll get two subtly different versions of every single system program showing up in your start menu). In fact, if you like, you can install multiple different desktop environments on the same computer and you'll be asked to pick one each time you log in. Many distros, including Mint, come in multiple "flavors", each with a different desktop environment preinstalled and configured out of the box. In fact, some distros targeted towards slightly more advanced users, such as Arch and Gentoo, do not ship with a desktop environment at all -- you'll simply boot up to a full screen command prompt until and unless you install one yourself.

Linux Mint is one of the few distros I'd still feel comfortable recommending to a novice (do not get me started on how far Ubuntu has fallen since its glory days), although I'd also suggest you give Manjaro a look.

The two major players in the Linux desktop environment space are GNOME and KDE Plasma, although there are many other desktop environments and window managers available. (The difference between the two is that a desktop environment is a window manager that comes bundled with a bunch of other goodies, like a wallpaper engine, settings app, software store (these are usually just more user-friendly ways of interacting with your distro's built-in package manager without having to use the command line), file manager, text editor, menus for connecting to Wi-Fi and Bluetooth devices, etc., which you'd have to supply yourself if you went with a standalone window manager. For this reason, and many others, standalone window managers are generally targeted towards people who are either serious about customization and getting their system to work exactly the way they like, or have much older/lower-end computers that aren't fast enough run a full-fat modern desktop environment, so for the novice user coming from Windows I'd recommend going with a premade desktop environment). Further, most of the premade desktop environments besides those two, such as LXDE, are only available for X11 instead of Wayland. The short version is that Wayland has support for more modern features, such as HDR color support, and better security (with X11, any application with at least one background window open can record the entire screen as well as all mouse input and keystrokes, including passwords -- with Wayland, applications only have keyboard input when they're focused, and can only record the screen when explicitly granted permission, among other improvements). It's recommended to not use X11 unless you have a compelling reason to do so, such as running one of those older desktop environments, or just really wanting to play around with some of the sillier features of xrandr, such as rotating your monitor by an arbitrary number of degrees.

The GNOME desktop environment (correctly pronounced "guh-nome") is what you were probably hearing about when you were told Mint is similar to Android. Admittedly I do not have much experience with GNOME -- I'd strongly encourage you to go look up reviews of both on YouTube etc. -- but I'll do my best. There's a tray of commonly used apps on the side which you can pull open to a grid of apps akin to the Android launcher. GNOME seeks to be minimalist and focused on productivity -- there are no desktop icons, for example, and no start menu. Instead, you can can press the Windows key (which Linux users call the Super key) to open an Android-style application launcher. There are also keyboard commands you can learn for moving windows around, maximizing and minimizing them, switching between virtual desktops, etc. The interface is also designed for tablets, and by default, windows only have a close button, no maximize or minimize. It will likely feel very alien if you are coming from Windows or MacOS, but depending on what you like and how willing you are to learn stuff that might make you more efficient, that might not necessarily be a bad thing.

On to KDE Plasma. (KDE is the name of the company and Plasma is the desktop environment they make, although you'll often hear people refer to the desktop environment simply as KDE. The company has also made some other fantastic software such as Krita, an open source digital painting program that people mention in the same breath as Photoshop, and Kdenlive, an open source video editing program.) I personally am a devoted KDE Plasma user and am a huge fan of it. Out of the box, it looks and feels more or less like Windows 7, with the familiar start menu, taskbar, and system tray in the bottom right next to the clock. Desktop icons are as they are on Windows, although your primary method of launching applications is through the start menu. Longtime users of Windows 10, for example, should feel right at home, although the headlining feature of KDE is its customizability. Not only can you reposition the taskbar on the top, bottom, or sides of the screen, you can have more than one (e.g. thin MacOS style system bar at the top of the screen and Windows style taskbar at the bottom), you can reorder the series of widgets (e.g. move the system tray to the left side, or get rid of the clock altogether, or replace it with one that shows the time in words, e.g. "Quarter past one"), you can pin different programs to the taskbars on your different monitors if for some reason you want to do that, etc. You can also (like in Windows) explore a wide variety of themes, plus download more community-created ones from Plasma's built-in theme store. Or you can do what I do and stick with the defaults. KDE also has some very cool smartphone integration, allowing notifications from both PC and phone to be displayed on the other, allow phone to be used as a remote keyboard and mouse for PC, open a webpage that's open on either on the other iOS style, etc. Honestly, the longer I use this desktop environment the more impressed I am with it.

As for trying out Linux before you buy, so to speak (or more accurately, before you commit to installing it on your computer), one incredibly neat feature Linux has that no other OS I'm aware of does is the ability to be run off of a flash drive in a so-called "live installer environment". Essentially, when you boot off of a flash drive to install Linux, there's a full soup-to-nuts copy of Linux right there, and if you just close out of the installer, you can play around in it, explore the desktop environment, install programs to test out how they work, etc., all without touching your hard drive. The catch is that it does this by taking a portion of your RAM and treating it as a temporary hard drive, meaning if a program (like a Steam game) requires more disk space than you have RAM, you won't be able to install it in the live mode (unless you install it to an HDD/SSD that Linux can read), and any data created that you don't explicitly save to an HDD, SSD, or flash drive of some sort will be lost on power off. One upshot of this is that if you decide you don't like the Linux distro you've chosen, or Linux in general, you can simply unplug the flash drive and restart your computer, and Linux will leave no trace that it was ever there.

A common thing to do is to install Linux alongside Windows in a dual boot configuration. Essentially, what this means is that you'll carve out a portion of the total space of your C: drive for permanent use by Linux (or, alternatively, put a second SSD in your computer and install Linux to that), and each time you restart your computer you'll be presented with a menu asking which operating system you want to boot. From the perspective of any websites you visit or applications you install they'll be two totally separate computers. Linux will be able to access files saved to your Windows partition but not, in most cases, vice versa. Any copying of data between the two must be done from Linux. (There is a project called WinBtrfs which apparently allows Windows to access Linux partitions that were formatted with Btrfs instead of Ext4 when they were created, although I have not had a chance to try this myself.) If you're apprehensive about making sweeping changes to your computer, like shrinking your Windows partition and installing a whole new bootloader, you can go the virtual machine route, although keep in mind that any OS running in a virtual machine, especially on Windows, will not be nearly as performant as one running on real hardware!

Thanks for reading my wall of text. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask!

CosmicCleric ,
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Thanks for reading my wall of text.

Moar paragraphs are your friends.

KrapKake ,

Mint is good but if you want the best touch screen support with gestures and an automatic on screen keyboard, you will want a distro that is using the gnome desktop environment (it is also android-like). Well known distros that come with this are Fedora Workstation, ZorinOS, and Ubuntu.

WamGams ,

Interesting. I thought Mint was a version of Ubuntu.

ReveredOxygen ,
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It's a (better IMO) derivative of Ubuntu, but it uses the Mint desktop environment by default while Ubuntu uses Gnome. To a casual user, most distros are pretty similar other than their defaults. Those defaults aren't even particularly hard to change. For example, switching mint to Gnome is one command and a couple GUI clicks: https://itsfoss.com/install-gnome-linux-mint/

melpomenesclevage ,

its a fork of, downstream, tears out a bunch of the annoying shit and has different ux.

KrapKake ,

It's based on it yes, but they use different desktop environments. The desktop mint uses is called Cinnamon.

melpomenesclevage ,

...burned out?

lots of versions of windows limit the amount of memory they recognize.

WamGams ,

We had an overheating issue and couldn't restore so we had to do a reset and once that happened our system information said we had 8 gigs less than we had before the reset.

A buddy of mine said he thinks the slot connection died from the overheating.

melpomenesclevage ,

oh yeah that could happen, but just to be sure...

RickAstleyfounddead ,

I can't just imagine replacing the whole motherboard for a fking ram module
Soldered for a reason🙂

southsamurai , an linuxmemes in It's so similarly pronounced to the SI prefix that it can also be 1000 Manjaros
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They aren't pronounced the same? I've never heard the distro's name spoken

Molten_Moron ,

The joke is that Kilimanjaro is pronounced similar to 'Kilomanjaro', which would be 1000 Manjaros.

southsamurai ,
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Ahhh, my brain just farted on that one. It's obvious once you tell me lol

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