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woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an DACH - jetzt auf feddit.org in Tesla-Proteste: Vereint im Hass aufs E-Auto

Dann wären Städte endlich wieder Orte für Menschen und nicht wie die letzten 200 Jahre Orte für Autos.

In den Autos sitzen aber Menschen, die irgendwo zu sein haben und wenn der ÖPNV sich nicht radikal vergünstigt und zuverlässiger wird, wird sich das nicht ändern. Für mich als D-Ticket-Besitzer war das nicht gerade so geil, dass nach etwas Platzregen vor einer Woche die Straßenbahnen nicht gefahren sind und ich doof an der Haltestelle stand und mir alternative Verbindungen suchen musste. Immer, wenn auch nur ein bisschen Wetter ist, fällt da direkt alles auf Schienen aus. Für zu Fuß war's zu weit, für's Fahrrad wars zu nass.

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Gnome developers in a nutshell

They wanted to write a Mac interface

macOS windows have minimize buttons and a dock that's not just visible when opening a launcher.

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an ich_iel in ich😪🤤😴iel

Wenn der Wille nicht da ist, auch für das Back-End ein Team aufzubauen und alles auf einer Person lastet, wird Geld alleine den Flaschenhals nicht beheben.

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an DACH - jetzt auf feddit.org in Ist bei euch in der Umgebung was geboten oder ist es nur meine Umgebung?

Das sind dann die exotischen Events 😁

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an DACH - jetzt auf feddit.org in Ist bei euch in der Umgebung was geboten oder ist es nur meine Umgebung?

Der Beschreibung nach könntest du auch im Münsterland wohnen. 😁

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an Deutschland in Carlo Masala: "Ich kann Ihnen sagen: Bei der Nato herrscht gewisse Verzweiflung"

Du willst wie ein Schaf in Putins Gulags geführt werden.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

Rocky is part of the community.

Rocky Linux is part of the Fedora community? WTF?

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

The vote likely would of favored gnome.

No need to kill it then. Obviously the Red Hat representative got cold feet.

Fedora is enterprise oriented and focuses on being a new version of the stable enterprise.

Fedora describes itself as a community-led distribution, not as a corporate beta test for RHEL: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

The Fedora leadership is elected the the community.

"The Fedora Council is composed of a mix of representatives from different areas of the project, named roles appointed by Red Hat, and a variable number of seats connected to medium-term project goals." --https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/

Also most the community does not want to deal with KDE.

Too bad we can't know this for sure because the discussion and a vote was shut down. The leader was clearly afraid of the possible outcome. No need to "drop the mic" if it was actually so clear cut.

Outside of that most people want stability and simplicity both of which KDE is not.

Baseless claims.

The other issue is the installer and the enterprise. If Fedora switched to KDE by default then the downstream distros would need to as well as Fedora is the testing ground for RHEL, Rocky and Alma.

Wrong. Fedora switched to btrfs as well despite the fact that it's unsupported by RHEL. Outside the RH sphere of influence, openSUSE manages to offer Plasma equally next to Gnome even though Gnome is default in SLE.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

Look, we knew Fedora wasn’t going to drop Gnome. Gnome is almost entirely a Redhat project, it’s there for the paying corporate market so it doesn’t confuse the drones by offering “choices”, and Fedora is the proving ground of any changes that might affect said drones. I can’t even argue with the logic.

The project leader could just be honest about that instead of making BS up.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

And branding is not something up to popular vote.

The suggestion wasn't about changing branding. It was about changing one default, just like when PipeWire replaced PulseAudio or when btrfs was elected to be the default FS. The product would still be called Fedora Workstation and kept its trademarks, logos,...

To them, they have spins for other DEs/WMs and that’s enough. And why wouldn’t it be?

Who is "them"? Clearly not the Fedora community or the community-elected Engineering Steering Committee. The ability to vote on that was taken away from them by one person unilaterally declaring that. FESCO would have decided to just keep Gnome. Looks to me like that one person would not wan to take any chances that the community-elected committee might vote differently.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

I understood Matthew’s position as “this should be discussed in the Workstation WG first”, not as a “no”

And later he said it's not up to the community but the Fedora Council which at least partially consists of unelected Red Hat-appointed people and all decisions need to be on a consensus-basis, so a single corporate-appointed person can veto everything. FESCO (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is democratic, Fedora Council is not.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

Fedora is recognized as the Gnome distro, though.

Things could change. That why it was brought up for debate. The debate could have concluded that changing defaults is not the right move.

It really is a branding issue.

And what would be the trademark(!) issue? The default desktop edition is called "Fedora Workstation", not "Fedora Gnome", so the branding is not tied to Gnome in any way. Seems more like an attempt to kill a discussion where the popular vote might be undesirable.

woelkchen OP , vor 2 Monaten an linuxmemes in Don't dare to question Gnome

I can see an argument for gnome, as it’s overall the simpler environment. Simple defaults has been fedoras thing for a long time.

They could make that argument then and not just close the topic by declaring it a trademark issue.

woelkchen , vor 2 Monaten an DACH - jetzt auf feddit.org in Ist es doch langsam an der Zeit auf eine andere Instanz umzuziehen?

Hilft Feddit.de nicht.