foone , Englisch
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oh sweet jesus. I found some raspi-based GPS/RFID devices at ewaste, right? and they had a mini-PCIe WLAN card, complete with SIM card in it.

The SIM card is still active.

cdamian ,
@cdamian@rls.social avatar

@foone
I have definitely thrown out stuff with active SIM cards.
Dog GPS trackers come to mind.
Thankfully they are paid for by someone else.

ppxl ,
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@foone Mrs Pixel wishes me not to know whether there is an eWaste station in my country as well 😅

Good find tho

mvilain ,
@mvilain@sfba.social avatar

@foone Some people are to stupid about informational hygiene for their own good. You could send them a text telling them how stupid they are or use the card until the account gets closed to perform some mild hijinx. Something like putting it into a burner and donating it to a homeless shelter. Who knows what calls to Nicaragua or Guatemala or Hyerbad would exhaust the card.

I only wish it was as easy to return all the dog turds that errant dog owners leave on sidewalks and lawns back into their own living rooms.

davidrperry ,
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@foone what amazing ewaste are you browsing that you find such fun toys?!?!

foone OP ,
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@davidrperry there's a semi-private one nearby that I sometimes visit because my roommate has access.

LinuxAndYarn ,
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@foone Wait, you have an ewaste shop or easy access to a recycling center before things get shipped away?

kataze ,
@kataze@ice-lolly.social avatar

@foone I have encountered A Troubling Amount of e-waste with still active sims

drwho ,
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@foone What eWaste place do you go to? I don't know of any up here.

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

@drwho this place:
https://recycle1234.com/

they're not exactly public, but there's plenty of people who can get you in

inari ,
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@foone now you have to ask yourself ... what alignment are you??

Lawful Good - Contact the carrier and return/destroy it?
Chaotic Good - Just straight out destroy it.
Lawful Neutral - Put the SIM somewhere in a drawer where it will be forgotten.
Lawful Evil - Rack up a bunch of data and THEN contact the carrier.
Chaotic Evil - Rack up a bunch of data until the SIM dies.

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

@inari oh, you're not thinking evil enough, not remotely.

montar ,
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@foone @inari Aliexpress sells racks for various amounts of SIM cards for spamming or whatever. Is that evil enough?

queue ,
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@foone ...That can't be good. Any ideas if this is a personal SIM or a corprate SIM?

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

Yep. It's active on AT&T 4G data. It's got a phone number and everything.

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

I'm used to companies leaving all kinds of important info on microSD cards and individuals leaving their tax info on hard drives, but active SIM cards is a different thing entirely.

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

also I have like 3-5 of these, and someone else who was at ewaste has another 10.

that's a lot of 4g SIMs

grumpasaurus ,
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@foone you stumbled into a sleeper agent gear depot

A_C_McGregor ,
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@foone are they all active?

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

@A_C_McGregor haven't tested them all yet!

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

looks like the company is still in business. I dunno why a bunch of their prototyping shit ended up at ewaste then

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

they're nearby and hiring. maybe I should show up for an interview and then reveal that I'm using their SIM cards

neckspike ,
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@foone call them from their own numbers

foone OP ,
@foone@digipres.club avatar

@neckspike now that's a fun idea

1000millimeter ,
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@foone @neckspike If it's not a data only sim.

sargoth ,
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@foone the phone call is coming from inside the house

zanpreston ,
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@foone subscribe

zanpreston ,
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@foone scream.gif “The call is coming from inside the network!”

ozzelot ,
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@foone Good luck

UpLateGeek ,
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@foone when you get the job, you can tell them they just need to provide the work phone, because you’ve already got plenty of company SIMs!

lampsofgold ,
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@foone the degree to which IoT industry security is stuck at "not shipping bash .history" is frankly disturbing

azurelore ,
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@foone it's a veritable sim city

michaelgemar ,
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@foone Somebody is still paying monthly for that?

JessTheUnstill ,
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@michaelgemar
It's probably on some mega corporate account, and just fell off the radar from bad inventory management/bad decommissioning process.
@foone

SnoopJ ,
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@JessTheUnstill @michaelgemar @foone yup, nobody's awake at the wheel

JessTheUnstill ,
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I mean, when you're some megacorp, your AT&T bill is at least tens of millions per year, and probably split across hundreds of cost centers. It's real easy for stuff to slip through the cracks, especially if they're not seeing big data usage. They might even have a contract where the per-active sim cost is very small and they pretty much only pay for the data usage. That's mean a sim in an ewaste bin doesn't even show up on reports.
@SnoopJ
@michaelgemar @foone

foone OP ,
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@JessTheUnstill @SnoopJ @michaelgemar it won't show on reports until someone starts using 4 of them to leech terabytes of torrents.

not that I would ever do such a thing of course

grumpasaurus ,
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@foone we find that it's 10% of at&t gross revenue

flyingsaceur ,
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@foone I feel like certain companies negotiated “free lifetime” cellular data for their iot devices and knowing big corp they just released them into the world

I had a 3G one of these in my CPAP and it kept working until they shut down the 3G network. These things are like a sucking chest wound on the cellular carrier is balance sheets, so I’m sure that this is a factor in non-backwards compatible cellular data service

philip ,
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@foone Free internet!

jackemled ,
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@foone free service!

ret ,
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@foone this is why all our stuff is VPN SIMs with no Internet connectivity. :blobfox_w:

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