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UnfortunateShort , vor 2 Monaten

OpenSUSE exists as a testbed for SLE, I don't think there's anything confusing about that. It's also much easier to get to a sensible setup for new users. If it weren't for the AUR and the Arch Wiki, I would probably still be using it.

lemmyreader , vor 2 Monaten

Bold :-) openSUSE is based on zypper and rpm. Arch Linux uses its own package system.

p.s. Please replace that Change my mind guy with a Calvin and Hobbes one.

laurelraven , vor 2 Monaten

Maybe they used him because it's a shit opinion?

furycd001 , vor 2 Monaten

OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed. I'm an Arch user, btw, but I consider both operating systems to be excellent choices. Everyone has their own preferences. Let people enjoy what they like and embrace their individuality. We don't all have to be alike....

lemmyreader , vor 2 Monaten

OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed.

You're basically right but just some historic facts added :

Judd Vinet started the Arch Linux project
in March 2002. OpenSUSE : Its development was opened up to the community in 2005, which marked the
creation of openSUSE. Before that it was
called SUSE Linux, first released in 1994.

PlasticExistence , vor 2 Monaten

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bjoern_tantau , vor 2 Monaten (Bearbeitet vor 2 Monaten)

Serious question: What makes Arch's package manager so "great"? I always just found it confusing to use. The flags don't make any sense to me. It feels like you have to add a varying number of s or y to get it to do what you want. I never found it to be any faster or slower than any of the others (apart from portage of course) out there. And apart from the flags it doesn't seem to give me any more or less trouble than the others.

lemmyreader , vor 2 Monaten

Dunno. Anecdotal, a few years ago pacman appeared to be much faster than apt-get for me. Currently I don't see that very much difference but then again I haven't paid much attention to it.

• Pacman can do parallel downloads (which I haven't tried) : https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/pacman#Enabling_parallel_downloads

ichbinjasokreativ , vor 2 Monaten

there's nala as an upgrade to apt, but pacman iirc has a few more features still

exu , vor 2 Monaten

As a user it's definitely harder to get into than apt or dnf. However, as a packager, it's very easy to package new applications for pacman. That's also why the AUR offers this many packages often not found in other distros.

wfh , vor 2 Monaten

pacman -Snstall -yefresh -yefresh -unly-upgrades

PlasticExistence , vor 2 Monaten

User is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

AlligatorBlizzard , vor 2 Monaten

LOL, me using Debian for the first time.

ikidd , vor 2 Monaten

sudo is not installed. Check apt search sudo for possible sources.

AlligatorBlizzard , vor 2 Monaten

I figured that out after a quick search. Thanks though. I just thought it was kind of funny how I found out Debian doesn't come with sudo.

VeganCheesecake , vor 2 Monaten

I use tumbleweed on my desktop, but run arch on a secondary machine. From experience, pacman is much faster than zypper, even on a slower machine.

Encamped , vor 2 Monaten

It's fast. That's why it's great. I've considered switching to opensuse a lot, but the speed of pacman compared to how slow zypper is always drags me back to arch

Peasley , vor 2 Monaten

Wow I must be doing something wrong, zypper has always been faster for me than pacman, both on my newer desktop and my older laptop

Encamped , vor 2 Monaten

I've heard countless times it's one of the slowest package managers and the last time I tried opensuse it confirmed that, though that was a year ago, so I guess improvements have been made