ekZepp ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar
TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

* Using Linux to access religious websites that have been proven more likely to hack you than porn websites:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ec73ed37-69b0-4d9b-988d-7257636ae3b8.png

MSugarhill ,

Sweet times, when I made malware running with WINE.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Wasn't there a story about bug found in kernel because some malware kept crashing in wine?

Allero ,

All jokes aside, using Linux really does bring some peace of mind when it comes to malware.

While Linux malware certainly exists, it's nowhere near as prevalent as Windows one, so that's one less headache to give serious consideration to.

SanndyTheManndy ,

once linux is more common, that will change for the worse

gunpachi ,

At that point BSD will take the place of linux I guess.

pmk ,

And Plan9 will take the place of BSD, and TempleOS will take the place of Plan9?

Gork ,

Plan9 is probably really secure due to its obscurity. Any malware that targets Linux, Unix Windows, or Mac would do absolutely jack shit to Plan9 because it's so much different.

Allero ,

Probably still not as bad as Windows due to open source nature

After all, there's plenty of Linux servers around, hacking them can be a huge market, so there already is an incentive to hack into Linux.

Also, it's a bold assumption that Linux will overtake the desktop market the way it did with servers in any reasonable timeframe.

lemmylem ,

Just wait until Windows 10 drops support, we'll probably see a 2%-4% increase within a year. Who knows, maybe more. I was fine with Windows 10, but when I made the move to Windows 11, I said fuck no. It's what made me switch to Linux as a daily operating system. I'd say with tools like ChatGPT, it will make it much easier for your average joe to switch over. Windows has reached peak enshittification. Do more, teach people, show people how much money they can save.

I already convinced the company I started working at to replace their outdated BIOS firmware with Coreboot. And soon, we're going to start using Proxmox VE on all of our machines. We have about 40-50 computers, and we're going to install it on every single one of them (edge virtualization) and manage it them all from a server. Once that's done, we'll have even a bigger incentive to switch to Linux. I'll also soon setup Nextcloud with OnlyOffice, as a replacement for Microsoft Office. I hope to see us transition over fully.

They probably spend around $5000-$6000/more a year in licensing for software. Once we have all Free Software, I think it'll truly be better for the long run. Sure, a couple issues with people getting used to it, but these are short term issues, down the line we can save so much money and have better security/privacy.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You did get extra cash for this work, right? Or was it part of the job?

lemmylem ,

I'm a low level IT Support Specialist (it's my first IT job), I honestly just recommended all these and my boss wants to go through with it, plus it's something I love to do. In the coming weeks we will start to implement Coreboot w/ LinuxBoot and Proxmox onto most of our machines. I've messed with Coreboot a lot, not a dev, just good enough to build/customize and install it for them. I honestly want to see the world change, I mean hell yeah money is great too, but at the end of the day, all I want is for other companies/people to see that this way of doing computing is much better. Sure, you may have to get through the hurdles of learning it, but if you have someone to guide you it makes it so much easier. Now imagine if everyone used it, everyone could lend a helping hand.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

OK, you're young, I get it.

No way am I doing that for free.

I work in IT too BTW... just not as young as you.

lemmylem ,

I mean I already get paid for the work I do, I make $55K/year currently. Should I be asking for more?

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

For this? Absolutely! I would...

MonkderDritte ,

Btw, news and software sites are scarier in malvertising than porn sites.

Duamerthrax ,

Remember when Forbes loaded malware onto people's computers after demanding they turn off their ad blockers? Cause I sure do.

MrGerrit ,

Okay, serious question: which distro is the best for watching Pr0n? One that can handle multiple video streams with out slowing down would be great.

C'mon you nerds, help a degenerate out!

trashgirlfriend ,

Boot off a live media every time you want to watch it

NeatNit ,

They're clearly asking about performance not security

trashgirlfriend ,

Performance wise every modern distro should be able to handle multiple video streams provided your pc has the resources.

Probably would also be doable off the live media?

Fisch ,
@Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Any distro, I don't think there's a difference in this case

heavy ,

I know this is a joke but for anyone reading: Linux has many advantages and is great but is NOT immune to viruses or exploits.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Though there are very few of them... at least regarding virurses.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

That isn't true at all.

Source: My job is hardening Linux servers against cyber security threats.

aniki ,

Hardening a server is not the same thing as running vulnerable operating systems.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

According to NIST it is:

A process intended to eliminate a means of attack by patching vulnerabilities and turning off nonessential services..

You have to harden servers because they're vulnerable.

aniki ,

That's because of the function of a server running those services. A desktop isn't running services.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Desktops absolutely run services that can be vulnerable.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

I think desktop Linux was implied. You don't browse porn from servers. Mostly.

GregorTacTac ,
@GregorTacTac@lemm.ee avatar

Tf does the "mostly" mean??

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Because you CAN browse porn from server.

kouichi ,
@kouichi@ani.social avatar

Cringe

littletranspunk ,

Shhhh. Let people enjoy things

elint ,

The real Linus Tech Tips (now with 100% less sexual harrassment).

Vilian ,

did..did you really started using linux because of porn?

folkrav ,

That’s… quite the dedication. I personally just never downloaded things or ran random executables from porn sites, but hey… who am I to judge, I guess

NeatNit ,

There's always a risk of JavaScript breaking out of the sandbox and crap like that. Browser vendors do their best to protect against things like that but security is often a trade-off for speed and people like fast software, not to mention browsers are huge and complex and they're going to have vulnerabilities. A browser's whole job is to execute remote untrusted code, do you trust it that much to be flawless?

...... I mean, I don't but I use it anyway so ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

PoolloverNathan ,

Linux security noob here but can't you just run the browser in a chroot with everything isolated?

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, that should work too... but you don't get to see any of your local files...

PoolloverNathan ,

Made a Nix library for this. For a simple setup you can just build this (untested) and run the result:

import ./encase.nix {
  name = "firefox";
  rw.home.nathan = /home/nathan/home-for/firefox;
  # other dependencies it might need...
  tmp = /tmp; # fresh tmpfs for this sandbox
  network = true;
  command = pkgs.firefox;
}

It doesn't have user isolation yet, so if it escapes the browser and the chroot (which doesn't have a /proc unless you set proc = /proc;, and runs in a PID namespace either way) your files are still at risk. However, this is still pretty secure, and you can run the script itself as a different user (it creates a new UID namespace so chrooting can be done without root).

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Of course not, it was because I really liked this girl, and she used Linux too.

Penta ,

GNU/rizz

Sombyr ,
@Sombyr@lemmy.zip avatar

lmao, this is unironically the reason one of my exs stared using Linux. Because I kept hyping it up so he figured it was a good bonding activity to learn it. To my knowledge he still uses it.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was actually kidding... I don't know any girl that uses Linux 😔.

Sombyr ,
@Sombyr@lemmy.zip avatar

Then allow me to introduce myself.
Not that I'm a Linux pro, but I at least know how to copy and paste terminal commands until I fix whatever problem I caused by copying and pasting terminal commands.

erev ,
@erev@lemmy.world avatar

one of us one of us one of us

Vilian ,

but I at least know how to copy and paste terminal commands until I fix whatever problem I caused by copying and pasting terminal commands.

this is such a mood lmao

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Will you marry me 😊?

/s I'm already married, just said it for the joke 😂... not happily though, so there's always a chance 🤣🤣🤣.

Sombyr ,
@Sombyr@lemmy.zip avatar

I've learned the dumb way going for married people is always a bad idea regardless of the status of the marriage, so I must politely decline.
I'm an Ubuntu user anyway, so I'm unfortunately unfit for marriage in the first place.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I'm an Ubuntu user anyway, so I'm unfortunately unfit for marriage in the first place.

Lol 🤣, this is why you are, you're funny 😂.

Seriously though, I completely agree with you. I was just kidding anyway, that is completely my problem to have and/or solve, don't need to drag others with me.

Vilian ,

relationship is temporary, linux is eternal

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