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Thats just an overly sweeping, thought terminating, cliché thats only ever said by people who would never vote left of Reagan anyway. You’ll excuse me if I don’t bother arguing that “da left” policies =/= zero, I’m sure.

Fair enough and you are welcome.

I think you would struggle to show me anything with “the left” saying there are no problems.

The mayor of Milano for one. Even if some area of the city are basically off-limits after a certain time, expecially for women.

They might not agree with made up problems that don’t contribute to the difficulties people face but that’s not the same thing.

Again, fair enough. They can think that it is a made up problem. But what should be the correct answer ? Because if I say "look, there is too many illegal immigrants around in this area of Milano (Stazione Centrale) and it is not safe because of the petty crimes", the answer could not be "you are too ignorant to understand why it is not a problem", you should explain to my how having thousands of illegal immigrant around living by petty crimes is not a problem, if you can (just an example btw).
Or if I ask for more kindergartens so I can have children you cannot answer to me that we are already too many and the next week say that we need to welcome more immigrants because the population is declining.

Of course, I must be wrong. Its not wealthy business interests who benefit from the housing crisis or falling wages.

Ok, assuming you are right, where is the benefit of a housing crisis where young people could not buy an house since they cannot have a mortage from the banks due to the low wages ? I would understand if the housing crisis rise the price and people could afford to buy more expensive houses, but it not seems to be the case. Ok, I understand that there could be some very short term benefits, but then ? It is not that you can eat the house and as the price increase the number of buyers goes down.

No, clearly its the left! Sorry, I’m not going to fall for the “considers you part of the problem” rhetoric. Youre either lying to push some “you can’t even be white these days” trope or are genuinely part of the problem and deserve it.

Given that the left was in power (in one way or another) for more than 20 years of the last 30 years, at least in Italy, I would say that maybe it not all their fault, but they are not innocent either.

The right have been in power in Italy and the UK and have been for years.

Ok, facts checks.
Here the list of Prime Ministrers from 1994 to today (so the last 30 years) in Italy:

  • Berlusconi (Right): 11/05/1994 - 17/01/1995
  • Dini (undefined): 17/01/1995 - 18/05/1996
  • Prodi (Left): 18/05/1996 - 21/10/1998
  • D'Alema (Left): 21/10/1998 - 22/12/1999
  • D'Alema (Left): 22/10/1999 - 26/04/2000
  • Amato (Left): 26/04/2000 - 11/06/2001
  • Berlusconi (Right): 11/06/2001 - 23/04/2005
  • Berlusconi (Right): 23/04/2005 - 17/05/2006
  • Prodi (Left): 17/05/2006 - 8/05/2008
  • Berlusconi (Right): 8/05/2008 - 16/11/2011
  • Monti (undefined): 16/11/2011 - 28/04/2013
  • Letta (Left): 28/04/2013 - 22/02/2014
  • Renzi (Left): 22/02/2014 - 12/12/2016
  • Gentiloni (Left): 12/12/2016 - 1/06/2018
  • Conte (Mostly Right): 1/6/2018 - 5/9/2019
  • Conte (Left): 5/9/2019 - 13/2/2021
  • Draghi (undefined): 13/2/2021 - 22/10/2022
  • Meloni (Right): 22/10/2022 - today

The 3 undefined are what we call "Governo tecnico", so not really from the Left or the Right.

Tell me again how the Right have been in power for years, please. Maybe it is true for UK.

When will you lot grow up and admit your own mistakes and abject failure to do anything other than make already very rich people far richer?

Ok, so what the Left did to stop this ? Just make anyone poorer ? Yeah, of course I am part of the problem and continuing to call me "part of the problem" or "too ignorant to understand" obviously will make me to vote for you. Good job.

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