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spacesweedkid27 , an Memes in Not sure how the girl's skin tone is relevant, but apart from that...
@spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world avatar

2 things:

  1. The victors write history

  2. After Lenin the USSR was not really communist anymore but more really a totalitarian state that didn't believe in the values of communism. Just like China.

Everything would probably have been better if Lenin didn't die so fast and then Trotsky would have ruled.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Trotsky would have ruled.

Mask off trot lmao

idiomaddict ,

To be clear, the alternative here is Stalin. There are like only five people who would be worse choices

Tb0n3 , an Memes in History

So... Average history?

tugash ,

How's the genocide of a whole continent "average history"?
The magnitude of destruction in the Americas is not common and this downplay of a continent-wide genocide is annoying.

Malek061 ,

The Mongols genocided two continents and a sub continent.

PyroNeurosis ,
@PyroNeurosis@lemmy.world avatar

Did they? I was under the impression they came in, did a conquer, and basically left with the conquered understanding that the horde'd be back for their tribute.

surge_1 , an Memes in Double standards or something, I don't know...

Dumb meme, the 2 situations are not similar.

generalpotato ,

Yes, one is recent, impacts the West directly and a bunch of white people and the other is Palestine.

surge_1 ,

Nope, try again

BirdyBoogleBop ,

How does a long time NATO ally not impact the west exactly? The Israel/Palestine confict has been in the news since I have paid attention to international politics.

generalpotato ,

That was the point. When it impacts the West directly, the we in the West decide to make things about right and wrong and morals and cook up excuses to throw more and more money because it serves our interests. When it’s Palestine… we decide to throw all of that out of the window and decide fund Israel (the aggressor) instead.

Reamen , an Memes in It's so nice to see them all growing, but this is just the truth, sorry.

To be fair, this should be the other way around. All these foss apps are the teletubbies because they're clunky and have major bugs. Sync is the power ranger.

drmoose ,

You're still stuck in 2002 or something? Most of the web is literally FOSS. Gone are the myths of free software being worse when the whole world literally runs on it.

Oszilloraptor ,

(not op)

Sure, but in this case, most of the lemmy-clients (FOSS or not) are bad.

I have problems logging into my accounts (seems like some instances want my email as a username and many clients cannot handle this after I switched accounts), some clients don't feature editing or deleting your posts, some clients don't show my saved content, some clients don't allow to see what you posted

Sure, much of this is because they started from scratch and will maybe surpass sync some day; but right now I couldn't find something that isn't worth.
(didn't try infinity yet, tho)

it's not necessarily "FOSS is bad"; it's just that the current lemmy-ecosystem is in it's child shoes (I have the feeling this proverb doesn't work in english?)

That said: I use Sync4Lemmy since 5 minutes and this is my first comment; so let's see if/what it will deliver

GenderNeutralBro , an Memes in Introvert tip #42

Don't hang up. Instead, enable airplane mode for increased verisimilitude.

khannie ,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

For those like me.....

noun: The quality of appearing to be true or real. synonym: truth.

Context implied it but still....Nice word!

GenderNeutralBro ,

I'm glad you like it! I like how it's made up of three common and easily-identifiable components: it uses the same root as verify meaning true, the same root as similar meaning "like", with tude being a common suffix like -ness. Basically "true-likeness".

https://www.etymonline.com/word/*were-o-
https://www.etymonline.com/word/*sem-#etymonline_v_52581
https://www.etymonline.com/word/-tude#etymonline_v_18793

Shirasho , an linuxmemes in Hot take

Not a hot take at all. Asking someone to go from a GUI heavy operating system to a command line heavy one and be just as productive is lunacy. Like all major changes it is important to ween off the old thing.

My biggest hurdle with the switch has been permission related issues, and you can't deal with those cleanly with a UI, and every help thread under the sun throws out a bunch of command line commands giving a solution without explaining why those changes are needed. It may seem like Unix 101 to experienced Linux users, but it is really cryptic to newcomers coming from operating systems that are...cough more lenient with their permissions.

There is also a mentality that UIs are much more idiot proof than command line. UIs are written by people who actually know the OS so we can't accidentally delete our home folder because of a typo. It is a very legitimate concern.

tryptaminev ,

Yesterday morning i installed Mint xfce on an old laptop.

I wanted to install synaptics drivers for the touchpad because i use the trackball as mouse but need the touchpad for clicking. Something that isnt configureable in the default driver.

When i copied an example config file and added my line, i rebooted the computer.

The GUI broke because in the example config file, there were "..." To indicate writing further options, but xorg couldnt interpret or ignore it, so i had to figure out how to edit textfiles in the command line.

No fun times, and definetely a risk for new users.

fkn ,

This story is literally every experienced Linux users first horror story.

I still remember the first time I broke my xorg config on my shiny new slackware 10 install in early 2005.

avidamoeba , an linuxmemes in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Memes are cool. Blatant misinformation in the form of a meme to manufacture outrage, not so much.

cypherpunks OP ,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

huh? what is the misinformation here?

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Even though this has been explained many times since the whole hullabaloo, I'll assume you're genuinely unaware and/or perhaps got rage-farmed by someone else's meme. The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn't changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro. There is net new support by Canonical that covers community-supported packages too which is available with Ubuntu Pro subscription. Therefore Canonical hasn't removed any existing, previously free security support. In addition, this newly added security support is available for free for up to 5 machines and it lasts for 10 years.

More info here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042

comfy , an Memes in Yes, but
@comfy@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe I can grift a nice bounty developing AR glasses which patch out all the brands on clothes and places in real-time.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c6d7006c-44f3-42a4-82e9-578fabc92978.jpeg

yokonzo ,

Just wait till the corpos have their hands on that, theyll make it do the opposite

wabafee , an Memes in Double standards or something, I don't know...
@wabafee@lemm.ee avatar

Both suck to be fair but Israel for me suck less. My reasoning mostly stem on their Ideology. Israel leans more to the US. Israel though recently leaning more to the extreme right, is still liberal compared to the rest of the nations in middle east. Woman has more freedom under Israel it seems. LGBT is more supported in Israel. For Hamas on the other hand has the same vibe for me with Taliban it doesn't help that it is supported by Iran and Russia. As for Ukraine I support them since they lean more to the West (EU and the US) and they are more democratic than Russia. That's my thought anyway.

jackmarxist ,
@jackmarxist@lemmy.ml avatar

So you support Israel committing genocide in Palestine because they lean west. Way to go lil bro

Recant , (Bearbeitet )
@Recant@beehaw.org avatar

Emotional responses don't lead to any solutions. Only reason will create a peaceful two state solution.

jackmarxist ,
@jackmarxist@lemmy.ml avatar

The Victims should never bargain with the invaders. Slava Ukraini Slava Palestini.

outer_spec , an Memes in H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E
@outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

game where what gender your character is is based on the difficulty level. Men are easy mode, because of male privilege. Women are medium, they start out with 25% less GP and have a debuff when traveling without a companion NPC at night. Nonbinary people are hard mode, some NPCs will perceive your character as “against the natural order” and attack them, but if they fail the “pronouns” skill check they get a disadvantage.

ieightpi ,

Accurate.

DmMacniel , an Memes in H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E

when checkboxes aren't styled as checkboxes

bleistift2 ,

I truly thought this was supposed to be a third gender and they didn’t want to call it ‘other’ to not sound dismissing.

Man, round checkboxes are dumb.

herrherrmann , an Memes in Please don't scare them!

The red squiggly underlines make me sad.

LaSaucisseMasquee ,

Screenshooting a Word document is utterly disgusting.

SaddieTheMad , an Memes in It's so nice to see them all growing, but this is just the truth, sorry.
@SaddieTheMad@lemmy.world avatar

I am disliking this sentiment. I am on the Fediverse because Sync's developer and many others were betrayed by Reddit and I wanted to show solidarity and to 'punish' Reddit by leaving. The Fediverse's values are admirable, but I do not share them all. I believe in supporting good projects, even some that are private if they don't pose a risk of destroying something bigger, and Sync is a good project that can be easily abandoned without consequences if something goes wrong.

lotanis ,

I think we need to separate the system from the product. With Reddit they're the same, with a single owner. With Lemmy/ActivityPub, just like with email, there's an underlying system that nobody owns. It's an ecosystem of pieces created by lots of different people.

It is a good thing that people are building products on top of that. Some of them are FOSS and some of them not. As long as no-one gets too much control of the underlying system then that's great! Users retain choice and can choose FOSS apps if they want, or they can choose something like Sync.

I agree it would be sad if the only apps were paid, but I think a mix is a sign of a healthy ecosystem.

BaconIsAVeg ,

It amazes me the how far Reddit users will bend over backwards to suck this dude's schlong. Must be a mobile-user thing.

utopianrevolt ,

that's what you take away from the post you're replying to? therapy is very much needed.

sheppard , an Memes in Double standards or something, I don't know...
@sheppard@feddit.uk avatar

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is much more nuanced. Both countries' current heads of state are kinda like "all this land is my country's, the other country should not exist." It's unclear who is right.

The Russo-Ukranian conflict is clear. One leader is claiming the land of the other, the other just want it back. Ukraine's government is not claiming half of Russia.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Edit: removed implied support for Hamas. Both militaries should burn. Hope for a quick end to the conflict for the sake of the civilians affected.

Magrath ,

At the end of the day who is Isreal and who Palestine. If no one who was alive when Palestine was around can anyone rightfully claim it the land belongs to "Palestine". It's like the ship Theseus or something. Maybe I'm just dumb as fuck.

Just make the fuck up and work together instead of being greedy bigots.

cyclohexane Mod ,

can anyone rightfully claim it the land belongs to "Palestine"

You should tell that to Israel, which is expelling Palestinians from this land every week for decades. It is not the Palestinians who are claiming the land exclusively to themselves and expelling others from it. It is Israel doing that. I find it crazy that you somehow argue this as if Palestine is doing that.

Anduin1357 ,
@Anduin1357@lemmy.world avatar

Palestinians lost the wars. Multiple wars. At this point there really isn't a point in contesting against Israel when they can integrate with Israel peacefully instead.

cyclohexane Mod ,

Israel is not offering "peaceful integration". Have a look at Palestinians who already live outside of Gaza, in the rest of occupied Palestine. The only choices are leave, suffer or resist.

Anduin1357 ,
@Anduin1357@lemmy.world avatar

Palestinians don't offer peaceful integration either, since they like to resist so much as a group that Israelis don't know who they can trust.

bdonvr ,

"Unclear who is right"

No it's pretty clear, out with the colonizer government. How is this a question?

Takapapatapaka ,
@Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world avatar

I get that there is lot more nuances than russo-ukrainian, but imo there is a lot more similarities than you seem to imply : both Russia and Israel claimed that the land belonged to them before, that they should get it back, and use violence to kill local people who tried to resist or move them. The only difference is that Israel did it with the help of western countries and partially according to their laws, so they get like an aura of legitimity, but the acts remains quite close.

I do not like when people basically do not accept violent behavior but accepts them when they are allowed by some law or authority.

(Also yes Hamas is doing bad things and should be held accountable in some way, just like Ukraine to my eyes. But still, for me it remains obvious who kills more, who steals more, who oppresses more)

rockerface ,
@rockerface@lemm.ee avatar

As a Ukrainian, let's sort out what we're accountable for once we're not getting genocided. We also have a lot of questions to our own government, but I would still prefer it to the Russian

reverendz ,

It isn’t that nuanced. The colonized, subjugated population is rising up rather than laying down to continue getting slaughtered.

Liberate Palestine.

Omega_Haxors ,

"Lets have some nuance" people on their way to defend Nazi war criminals

cyclohexane Mod ,

all this land is my country's, the other country should not exist.

One of those countries is an ethno-religious state that is exclusive of the other. Can you guess which one?

If you are an ethno-religious exclusivist who says "your country shouldn't exist only mine!" and I am a country that multi-religious, and say "actually my country should be the prevailing one, not your exclusivist one", you gotta realize those two are massively different, unlike you portray.

The Russo-Ukranian conflict is clear. One leader is claiming the land of the other

Russia's original pretext for the war is not about territorial gains. It was supposedly regarding Ukraine's attack on Donetsk, Luhansk, and ethnic Russian populations in general (such as the Odessa massacre), what they also called "de-nazification" of the Ukrainian government, and Ukraine's bid to join NATO. This is easily verifiable, but I can provide you a sources on this if you doubt me.

I am not claiming what Russia is saying is true, but it is not what you make it seem to make your argument.

100_percent_a_bot ,

Russias pretext for the war is complete horseshit. They have been supporting the rebels in these breakaway republics that magically appeared just after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Their support went beyond the usual proxy war/hybrid warfare bs, as hundreds of russian armed service men were confirmed KIA in Donezk and Luhansk.

Also there's not a shred of evidence for the secret nazi government of Ukraine (led by a Jewish president) and Ukraines bid to join nato was 1. Years of not decades from its realization and 2. None of Russias business.

cyclohexane Mod ,

Russias pretext for the war complete horseshit

Why are you arguing with me about Russias pretext, as if I'm telling you I support them? I specifically said I don't. Stop deflecting please, and argue my actual point.

100_percent_a_bot ,

OK then please clarify what exactly you mean here:

One of those countries is an ethno-religious state that is exclusive of the other. Can you guess which one?

You can only be talking about Palestine here, right? There is limited Muslim representation in Israel and no jewish representation in Palestine.

If you are an ethno-religious exclusivist who says "your country shouldn't exist only mine!" and I am a country that multi-religious, and say "actually my country should be the prevailing one, not your exclusivist one", you gotta realize those two are massively different, unlike you portray.

Israel has continuously expanded its settlements on the west bank in the Gaza strip. They did so, citing security concerns, in reality there are probably more religious reasons for doing that. The goal with these settlements is to chip away on territories that belong to Palestine.

Meanwhile I have no doubts that if Palestine had a button that would make all jews evaporate, they'd not hesitate to push it in an instant. Hamas is massively antisemitic and even the more moderate part of Palestine seems to condone the military push.

This situation is massively more complex than the Russo Ukraine war and there is no obvious good guy you can point to. This seems to bother people and will make the political parts of lemmy pretty insufferable for the next couple of weeks.

cyclohexane Mod ,

You can only be talking about Palestine here, right? There is limited Muslim representation in Israel and no jewish representation in Palestine

Israel is a Jewish theocracy by its own admission. Palestine has Muslims and Christians. Palestine was never ruled by a theocracy. The most popular groups have always been secular (example: PFLP). Even the Palestinian Authority is secular.

Whatever "muslim" representation there is in Israel, it is as good as none and does not change that it is an exclusive theocracy. Literally there is no equivalent to their religious exclusivism in any Muslim-majority nation. It is only matched by militant groups like ISIS.

Meanwhile I have no doubts that if Palestine had a button that would make all jews evaporate, they'd not hesitate to push it in an instant.

Source? This is an extremely bad faith argument. "A is genocidal. B has never done so. But I'm sure B would if they could, so that means A is justified!". Please read that again and tell me you don't see how ridiculous it sounds.

And you don't have to hypothesize. Before Israel was created, and during the increase of Jewish migrations in the 19th century and early 20th, Arabs never enacted any genocide against the Jews or did what Israel does today. In fact, European Jews found it to be a safe haven in comparison to Europe.

Hamas is massively antisemitic

Hamas only garners support because it is the only group left putting up a fight. It was never popular before that. But because of that, it has many non-Hamas-ians joining its ranks, and many of them reiterate their support for living peacefully among Jews.

And its important to point out that Hamas only climbed up to this position because of Israeli support more than a decade ago. This is Israel's own admission. They did not want progressive groups leading the resistance, and propped up Hamas instead. I'd be happy to cite you Israeli officials saying this.

even the more moderate part of Palestine seems to condone the military push

That doesn't mean they're anti Semitic. The operation primarily targeted military installations, soldiers and officials. It is resistance against the Israeli state. So supporting this operation is being opposed to the Israeli state, not because they wish to evaporate all Jews. That's ridiculous.

This situation is massively more complex than the Russo Ukraine war and there is no obvious good guy you can point to.

It is quite the opposite. Russia-Ukraine involves two States with crimes on their records, and I only side with Ukraine because Russia is the aggressor. But Ukraine is far from being a good guy. Israel-Palestine is an apartheid state against stateless people getting murdered and expelled from their lands, and their best fight is minor incursions on the border. It is very much a one-sided fight.

100_percent_a_bot ,

Israel is a Jewish theocracy by its own admission. Palestine has Muslims and Christians. Palestine was never ruled by a theocracy. The most popular groups have always been secular (example: PFLP). Even the Palestinian Authority is secular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
West Bank
Muslim 80–85% (predominantly Sunni)
Jewish 12–14%
Christian 1.0–2.5%, (mainly Greek Orthodox)[8]

Gaza Strip
Sunni Muslim 98–99%, Arab Christians 0.2% (2,000 to 3,000 est.), other, unaffiliated, unspecified <1.0% (2012 est.).

At least bother looking some of this stuff up...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_for_the_Liberation_of_Palestine
The PFLP has generally taken a hard line on Palestinian national aspirations, opposing the more moderate stance of Fatah. It does not recognise the State of Israel, it opposes negotiations with the Israeli government, and favours a one-state solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. [...]
The PFLP has been designated a terrorist organisation by the United States,[10] Japan,[11] Canada,[12] Australia[13] and the European Union.[14]

These guys seem like complete nutcases, secular or not. Also they are by no means politically popular, as opposed to Hamas and Fatah.

Source? This is an extremely bad faith argument. “A is genocidal. B has never done so. But I’m sure B would if they could, so that means A is justified!”. Please read that again and tell me you don’t see how ridiculous it sounds.

It's not bad faith at all, they literally have eradicating Israel as their mission goal. And that's not the first time an arab nation tries something like that, Iraq wanted to kill everyone in Israel with nerve gas in the 90s, that's why the first golf war happened. Also, Israels genocide is a cultural genocide (which is pretty bad) and I wish they didn't do what they are doing. Yet I dare you to look up any imagery from the last 72 hours and tell me that you prefer the approach that Palestine is taking in Gaza.

I'm not going to bother to continue, go outside and leave lemmygrad for a while comrade. Good night.

cyclohexane Mod ,

At least bother looking some of this stuff up...

I'm not sure which part of those statistics you think contradicts what I said. Can you please quote which part of what I said contradicts it? Your statistics confirm what I said. Go back and read what I said.

These guys seem like complete nutcases, secular or not.

Is this an argument? I am going to ignore it because I find no substance here, but if there's something I'm missing, let me know.

Also they are by no means politically popular, as opposed to Hamas and Fatah.

They were very popular before Hamas became the only group left fighting. Check out the PLO, of which they were a part of. Many of the prominent Palestinian figures were part of PFLP as well.

It's not bad faith at all, they literally have eradicating Israel as their mission goal.

I literally just explained to you why it's not. Feel free to argue my points directly, rather than restate the same statement I already disproved.

Iraq wanted to kill everyone in Israel with nerve gas in the 90s, that's why the first golf war happened

And the second gulf war happened because of their WMDs. We all know how the state department narrative was correct without any issues at all, right? Right?

Yet I dare you to look up any imagery from the last 72 hours and tell me that you prefer the approach that Palestine is taking in Gaza.

Do you want to see the Palestinian child that was burned alive by Israeli fire? I can provide you a link.

I'm not going to bother to continue

That's good. I prefer if you don't. It's not a good look. Please don't spread misinformation elsewhere either.

100_percent_a_bot ,

Misinformation my ass. Your first statement of "there's totally Christians in Palestine" disqualifies you as a reliable source of information to any sane person. You can't live in a world where that statement is factual and my statement that there's political representation of Muslims in the Israel is wrong. Also nice whataboutism, bringing up the 2nd Gulf War without addressing the very real issue in the first one. Look at pretty much any of the wars fought around Isreal and tell me there's not at least half a dozen countries around it who'd nuke them out of existence if they could.

I chose not to continue arguing your other points because I can see that you have a mild case of severe, self inflicted brain damage. The lefty racism of believing that only western people have agency and everyone else is just noble savages isn't something I can take away.

I can't fix that. Go take a shower, it won't hurt. Get some nice sleep. Talk to that girl. Unplug from the stream of misinformation, that is specifically crafted by ultra right Russian propaganda. It's all going to be OK.

cyclohexane Mod ,

Your first statement of "there's totally Christians in Palestine"

Yes it's true. Your own links prove I am right LOL. Not only that, many figures in Palestinian resistance are Christian. Examples: George Habash, founder of the PFLP. Shireen Abu Akleh, she was a journalist that Israelis murdered last year in cold blood.

There's an entire Wikipedia article about Palestinian Christians. You might learn something (I doubt it, you don't seem to be the kind):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians

nice whataboutism, bringing up the 2nd Gulf War without addressing the very real issue in the first one

I didn't imagine you would have so much trouble understanding that the west has a record of justifying war with bullshit claims. The first gulf war was due to, supposedly, Saddam's involvement in Kuwait and doing horrendous things. It was later proven that the woman who testified in front of the UN to justify this war was lying. More here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

I chose not to continue arguing your other points

"I only cherry pick the arguments I may have a chance not looking stupid responding to". I am sorry to break it to you, you look just as stupid in all the arguments, and your cherry picking is not a good look.

You said you would stop replying yet here you are. I urge you to stop wasting my time and spreading misinformation.

Last thing I'll add: you've started to engage in adhom attacks. I'm going to let it pass since I personally don't care, and imo you only embarrass yourself doing them. But if I see you doing that with anyone else in this community, I'll have to ban you. So please keep your insulting in check.

100_percent_a_bot ,

Didn't read your reply but good luck and God bless

cyclohexane Mod ,
ComradeChairmanKGB ,
@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml avatar

It’s unclear who is right.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-184195/

  1. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle;

Seems pretty clear.

BobGnarley ,

Its unlcear who is right? Tell me, who lived there first before the US swung its dick around and displaced all of them?

TangledHyphae , an Memes in Big scared

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.

Liz ,

Is that the "lay with another man" bit? I'm pretty sure there's arguments over the original text, and scholars think it originally meant "don't have sex with little boys" not don't have sex with men.

TangledHyphae ,

It's very specific, and it's in many places across the entire Bible. It's written with the same concept, in different ways, leaving no room for misinterpretation when you read the entire thing. I just finished the new testament, can confirm it's spread across that entire thing in different ways too. Here are 3 of them:

Romans 1:26-27 (NIV):

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV):

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NIV):

"We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine."

Liz ,

Not that I actually consider the Bible to be an authoritative source on morality (see: slavery), but are those faithful to the original texts? I only ask because it's my understanding that sexuality wasn't viewed as a straight-gay spectrum back then, but instead as a dominate-submissive spectrum. Like, if they were to actually have a problem with same sex acts, it was more to do with messing with the social order than any inherit sexuality problems.

InternetUser2012 ,

Good for you for being a good little boy and following bible. I'm sure you just pick and choose but hey, you do you. I think the bible is a terrible work of fiction used to scare and govern people, therefore, I don't believe in any of it, so your work of fiction means jack shit to me. Try being a good human, you'll be less scared and angry.

Draedron ,

How many threads are you wearing? Do you kill your kids when they dont obey you? Think owning slaves is fine as long as they survive a couple days after you beat them?

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