tarmil ,
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@mattgrayyes France and most European places I've visited are kinda in-between. Pedestrians can cross at the same time as cars in the same direction, like in America, but there's no authorization to turn right when it's red. (there's a sign that allows bikes to turn right but it's pretty rare)

UK is definitely the safest, and makes sense especially for a busy intersection. I think the French one is still reasonable for low traffic areas.

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