fasterthanlime , (Bearbeitet ) Englisch
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When you use the phrase “let’s be honest” do you mean “let’s be honest with each other“ or do you mean “let’s be honest with ourselves“?

malwareminigun ,
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@fasterthanlime are those not synonyms?

fasterthanlime OP ,
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@malwareminigun
each other = I will be candid with you
ourselves = I will admit hard truths about myself (to myself)

malwareminigun ,
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@fasterthanlime I see, ourselves referring to individuals rather than the group

fasterthanlime OP ,
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@malwareminigun yes! our two own selves, rather than the collective selves

malwareminigun ,
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@fasterthanlime "let's be honest, our customers use us for the text editor and not the UML designer" ... is that "ourselves" or "each other"?

fasterthanlime OP ,
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@malwareminigun
> the UML designer
whatever it is, it's macabre

(but I suppose, both?)

robin ,
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@fasterthanlime @malwareminigun I picked ourselves but I definitely read the poll as 'our collectif self'. = Let's not kid ourselves, let's be serious. (Whereas 'with each other' sounds more like "let me tell you some facts", almost aggressive tone-wise.)

piegames ,
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@fasterthanlime for the former I'd rather use "let's be frank"

Tak ,
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@fasterthanlime I don't use the phrase because it's a red flag for "I'm going to make an assertion without substantiating it and then try to imply that anybody who doesn't agree with it isn't being honest"

tuxinal ,
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@fasterthanlime btw show results is kinda redundant on fedi lol

fasterthanlime OP ,
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@tuxinal Ah yep I meant to remove it and forgot lol

BreoganHackett ,
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@fasterthanlime I think it's a bit contextual, depending on the preceding conversation and the information thast's being presented with that honesty.

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