foone , Englisch
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With all the different microcontroller platforms out there, it's sometimes annoying because there's a solution that does exactly what you want but it's targeting some weird architecture that isn't what you use, or has suddenly become hard to find.

I think it's about time we organize all our open source microcontroller-based firmware around a simple, widely available, and powerful architecture, for consistency and interoperability.

The Intel 80486.

llewelly ,
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@foone
controlling the micros is hopeless. They have revolted, and the age of micro anarchy will last forever.

sterophonick ,
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@foone DM&P makes chips like the Vortex86 family which are 486XX/Pentium clones in the form of SoCs. They can be found in a handful of embedded devices like a few commercial kitchen bump bars, for example, where the user must be attached to a monitor

indigoparadox ,
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@foone Many have been saying this.

nblr ,
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@foone Sadly the pcengines' APU series is no longer being built. I still got a dozen in stock for projects which I picked up from Pascal within the week of the announcement that they cease business... I fell you.

fishidwardrobe ,
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@foone Or --- hear me out --- 6502. I'm not sure it's not already been open sourced. (And, BBC Basic...)

carey ,
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@foone This seems to have been IBM’s approach to their 4694 Point of Sale hardware. My employer’s tills came with Cyrix 486s for years after Intel had discontinued them.

foone OP ,
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Microsoft's all open sourcing ms-DOS 4.0, Intel should open source the 80486.

They're about the same age.

foone OP ,
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I want a raspberry pico that's x86 and runs at 5v, is that so wrong?

ozzelot ,
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@foone Yes, but also, you are Foone, so it is an expected kind of wrong.

realMagnesium12 ,

@foone The most similar device to this I know would be a Dell WYSE 3040.

xinmyname ,
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@foone 5V? In this economy??

foone OP ,
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@xinmyname I live in th. Past! We use 5v back here, I don't care how much you youngins love your 3.3v and 1.8v

mothcompute ,
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@foone @xinmyname curse the pentium mmx and its peculiar dual voltage design...

PJ_Evans ,
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@foone @xinmyname
Um. I have a CD with software containing some GIF files, but it won't load in Win10. Might with XP or Win98... (It's from 1997.)

brouhaha ,
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@foone @xinmyname You young whippersnappers with your fancy newfangled +5V logic! We used -15V logic with discrete transistors in our PDP-8, and we LIKED IT!

phel ,
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@foone Hmm doable with a mid sized fpga maybe?

SteveSyfuhs ,
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@foone yes, yes it is.

griibor ,
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@foone Didn't intel cpus of that era want 5+ different voltages, some of them negative?

I thought that was like zilog's second most appealing feature.

felsqualle ,
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@foone Imagine a fully compatible FPGA reimplementation…

New hardware for ancient software!

bamfic ,
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@foone They're probably embarrassed of it.

corbin ,
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@foone finally, the year of the 486

thorsummoner ,
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@foone better yet, fork history: compile dos for similarly old risc chip (a lineage that will become arm64) and incrementally live a past life that could have been if Intel 8086 was irrelevant to begin with. bonus points for setting the mtime on the produced bins to be period accurate

sajattack ,
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@foone not quite the same but not a bad start either https://opencores.org/projects/ao486

scruss ,
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@foone They tried that. It ended very, very badly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quark

The Quark featured in the Worst Arduino Ever Made™: the Intel Galileo. Naturally, I love these awful things to pieces

rasteri ,
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@foone itanium or nothing

kevin ,
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@foone DX or SX?

foone OP ,
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@kevin DX. It's been 35 years, we can splurge a little

Foritus ,
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@foone I wonder how small they could make a 486 on today's silicon processes. I need a tiny swarm of them, sewn into my clothing!

foone OP ,
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@Foritus exactly!

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