CarbonScored , (Bearbeitet )
@CarbonScored@hexbear.net avatar

Always gonna note too that Google Chrome (and chromium + derivatives to a lesser extent) kneecaps adblock plugins so that up to 50% fewer ad domains are blocked, blocklists are out of date, many in-page ads can't be caught, it's slower, and invisible trackers can bypass it.

snownyte ,

People ignore how Firefox can take upwards of 8GB of memory because it wants to.

BCsven ,

I haven't experienced that. What is the use-case that makes this happen?
I have one machine with only 8 gig and firefox is fine, and a 16 and 32 gig machine, firefox has never eaten 8 gigs

Kichae ,

What they mean is "I use woefully malformed websites loaded up with all sorts of weird shit that eats ram on the regular, and somehow that's my browser's fault"

joe_cool ,

I have a VPS with 1 GB of RAM and Firefox with up to 3 tabs is fine. OK, it's running Linux maybe FF on Windows is worse.

Anamnesis ,

One thing I've been annoyed with after switching to Firefox is the iffy password manager performance. It's so common for it not to remember a password that it should, or, weirdly, for it to only remember the password once I've typed the whole username in and hit tab.

Zip2 ,

Maybe not the best image to use. Sheep bleating on about Firefox.

qprimed ,

pretty sure thats a goat. rugged, contrary and independent. one might even say... the Greatest Of All Time.

librejoe ,

Mfw when plebs are still using GUI browsers while I use Lynx.

joe_cool ,

w3m with framebuffer image support, my man.

librejoe ,

Pfhh images. Back in my dad we had ASCII art. And we liked it!

medium_adult_son ,

This might be known already, but I bet that Microsoft decided to switch Edge to Chromium instead of forking Gecko/Firefox because Google either bribed them or threatened to lower Microsoft sites' ranks in search results.

Otherwise why would MS use a web browser controlled by one of their very few competitors?

Edit: maybe they were enthralled by the promise of using Proton/Chromium based "desktop applications" (which just contain an entire Chromium browser in their install directory) to cheaply create apps that people are forced to use in their jobs, like Teams. Which is still awful even after they made it a full UWP desktop app. Like Skype already was.

MonkderDritte ,
6mementomori ,

does anyone recommend any Firefox alternatives? I genuinely hate Firefox's UI and keybinds and the scrolling tabs

AliOski ,

Floorp, I use it and I love it. It's especially great for Opera refugees, it has workspaces and stuff. Soon Firefox will support tab groups natively, and then Floorp will be perfect. It's a Firefox fork though.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Tab groups and non-independent tab muting (seems like it was domain-specific rather than tab-specific last I tried) are the two main things that kept me from switching back to FF as my primary browser (still use it for DTA, for example, but DTA got a big nerf back during the major extension overhaul, so that was a letdown). Tried some extensions, but none really worked in a way I considered usable and didn't want to just keep trial and erroring through them given I already have a browser that functionally meets my needs, even if I'd rather not be using a chromium browser.

If native tab groups work well enough, I'll probably give it another chance.

barsquid ,

That we all need something like tab muting really shows that the internet has gone to shit.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

I sometimes just need to mute something for a second that I'm otherwise listening to. Or I'm switching between multiple sources, and don't want like 3 or more playing at the same time.. usually all on the same domain. I don't want to have to actually go to the tab and mute it. I'm frequently muting and unmuting things that way to the point that even if its the only source of sound, I still mute by tab instead of just turning my computer volume off sometimes out of habit, so its a deal breaker.

I think this just says more about the perils of embracing untreated ADHD than the internet itself.

sga ,
@sga@lemmy.world avatar

you may not even have to change to another browser or fork, please have a look at some designs in https://trickypr.github.io/FirefoxCSS-Store.github.io/
select a design and follow the page, and you shall find the instructions (usually just downloading/pasting userChrome/Content.css)

and for scrolling tabs, if your problem is very small tab size, then try changing browser.tabs.tabMinWidth in about:config

chiliedogg ,

I usualy love it, but for some reason Firefox fails to retrieve web pages about 75% of the time when on the internet connection at my parent's house, and I don't know why.

It acts like a DNS failure, but the DNS settings are the same in Firefox, Chrome, and the router.

Meanwhile Chrome and Edge work great.

voodooattack ,

Probably secure DNS? Try disabling that in the privacy settings page.

thefrankring ,
@thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox will become good to me when it gets the extensions that I need for work.

idkmybffjoeysteel ,
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

Shame
YouTube and other sites are completely fucked on Firefox.

hungrybread ,

Are they? I watch YouTube on Firefox all the time, seems fine on my machine.

I think maybe 5+ years ago there were some performance issues caused by YT relying on features that were only implemented in Chrome, but I don't recall having any issues wrt that for years.

courier8377 ,

Yeah especially with user agent switcher google services run fine if needed

RoabeArt ,

I wouldn't say "completely fucked", but for a few years I noticed YouTube on Firefox has this occasional quirk where videos will quit playing and infinitely buffer at the exact same timestamp. Like there's no way around it except skipping about 30 seconds ahead with the seek bar, or doing a Ctrl-F5 (hard refresh) and starting the whole video over. Opera GX doesn't seem to have this problem at all.

But it's still not a big enough deal to make me give up Firefox completely.

space_comrade ,

Wym? Youtube works just fine for me with uBlock Origin. Very rarely there's some wonkiness but nothing unbearable.

idkmybffjoeysteel ,
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

I've got uBlock and Privacy Badger but turning them off or going incognito doesn't help at all. The most common issue I get with YouTube is the video keeps freezing. Apparently this is because Google deliberately fuck it so that other browsers have to play catch up constantly. I have heard this is why Microsoft gave up and adopted Chromium.

The other issue is that if I open more than one YouTube tab my laptop sounds like it is about to take off into space. I can have an unlimited number of tabs from any other website open though.

space_comrade ,

Sounds to me like some hardware issue, I've literally never experienced any of this in the last 5 years on Firefox. My guess is considering it works fine with other browsers the graphics drivers are a bit wonky, or maybe Firefox is falling back to software rendering for some reason. Are you using Linux or Windows?

idkmybffjoeysteel ,
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

Are you using Linux or Windows?

Mac

space_comrade ,

Strange, usually things just work there considering the limited hardware variety. Is it an older Mac? I'm typing this on an M2 macbook and it works perfectly.

Anyway try to dig into the config and check if you're using hardware rendering: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration

If it turns out you're using software rendering try forcing hardware rendering on: https://jamcity.helpshift.com/hc/en/6-genies-and-gems/faq/5737-how-do-i-enable-hardware-acceleration-on-my-browser/

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

Orion > FF > Chrome

shimdidly ,

Don't care. I use Brave.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You are definitely brave to admit that.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Yay, another Chromium based web browser. That will show them.....

NikkiDimes ,

Ew.

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