Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I use linux because, in the 90s, Redhat shipped with a Star Trek game. We are not the same.

eerongal ,
@eerongal@ttrpg.network avatar

Tux Racer go brrrr

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Oh, I hadn't thought of Tux Racer in ages. I think I need to play that again.

lightnegative ,

Tux racer go b.....r......r........r

I only had access to ex-corporate office hand-me-down motherboards as a kid. This was about 1 potato per 3 seconds of rendering performance (I'm 34)

neo ,

It did? Which one?

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I've been trying to remember but it hasn't come back to me. It was a 2D, top down, space battle game. Its possible it wasn't named after Star Trek, but you pilot a grey ship with a saucer section and nacelles to fire torpedoes and phasers at green bird of prey looking ships so...

grue ,
Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

No, but it was my gateway into Netrek.

corodius ,

Xtrek would be what pops to kind for me, possibly?

andrew ,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I use Linux because of compiz fusion cube desktop. We are not the same.

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

We are not. When I want a cubic desktop environment I reach(ed) for BeOS.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

and NeXT for the cubic computer itself

rovingnothing29 ,
@rovingnothing29@lemmy.world avatar
Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That all sounds very familiar. The one I played was full color but it must have either been a late version of Empire or something heavily "inspired" by it.

mkwt ,

I think my mother played that star trek game on a time shared minicomputer.

RickAstleyfounddead ,

Linux gotta mainstream wen?
Time to switch to bsd

tentacles9999 ,

It’s almost time to roll out your own OS, posix is becoming too mainstream

pacmondo ,

There's always TempleOS

bitwaba ,

Praise!

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar
herrcaptain ,

People like this, by simply existing, make me feel like a real dumb piece of shit.

My breaks from real work are video games, TV, and this sort of shit posting we've got going on in this thread right here.

marcos ,

That's why I plan to move my servers into an L4 clone.

tentacles9999 ,

I applaud this future thinking. you need bare metal or whatever you consider L4 to truly rice a system. Gone are the days where superior performance was a couple of finely tuned cpu flags away.

marcos ,

Well, ok. I don't really plan to do that. It was a joke.

I do wish it was something viable, though.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Heard me out

FreeDOS

pelya ,

I've used FreeBSD for about a month in 2005, and still can't stop talking about it.

bitwaba ,

I dual booted it as a desktop for about 6 months around the same time, but honestly all I did is use it as a desktop and browser. I could hardly figure out how to do anything else. I've forgotten everything about the experience, and anything I happen to accidentally remember I try to also forget.

marcos ,

It's close to 1 in 20 PCs nowadays. It's growing very quickly, and has been adopted in non-irrelevant amounts for a few years already.

Emerald ,

Solaris tho

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

shutters

Emerald ,

shudders

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

No shutters:

1000002476

Emerald ,
possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar
Emerald ,
Matriks404 ,

I am already learning to use FreeBSD. I definitely recommend reading the official handbook, it is even a pretty great introduction to Unix overall.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

*when

ordellrb ,

Plan9 from bell labs?

RattlerSix ,

I switched in the late 90s to attract women. I still think it's going to work someday.

LSlowmotion ,

Any time now surely

PlasticExistence ,

If you're also a woman, this may work!

lightnegative ,

Well, theres been a push to get more women into Tech so that works in your favour.

Your job is now to lure them away from the Microsoft bros

jollyrogue ,

That’s not a bad strategy. Just gotta add some leftist politics to the mix.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar
milicent_bystandr ,

"Come back to my house! There's no windows! No wait- not like that- don't go!"

FreshLight ,
@FreshLight@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let's not repeat the mistakes of (some!) old Unix-Heads and just welcome all newbies, please <3

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

the correct greeting is “I use Nix BTW”, Arch is so yesterday

lugal ,

I use ubuntu by the way 🤓

jpablo68 ,

I use Debian BTW 👴

milicent_bystandr ,

Oh, snap!

AVincentInSpace ,

I recently tried switching from Arch to NixOS and the experience I had can best be described as apalling. I have not had a new user experience this bad since my first dip into Ubuntu dependency hell back in 2016. I'd like to preface this by saying I've been a Linux user in one form or another for almost half my life at this point, and in that time this may well be the most I've struggled to get things to work.

Apparently they have this thing called home-manager which looks pretty cool. I'd like to give that a shot. Apparently I have to enable a new Nix channel before I can install it. I'm guessing that's the equivalent of a PPA? Well, alright. nix-channel --add ..., nix-channel --update (oh, so it waits until now to tell me I typo'd the URL. Alright), and now to run the installation command and... couldn't find home-manager? Huh?? I just installed it. I google the error message and apparently you have to reboot after adding a new nix-channel and doing nix-channel --update before it will actually take effect, and the home-manager guide didn't tell me that. Ah well, at least it works now.

I didn't want to wait for KDE and its 6 morbillion dependencies to download, so I opted for Weston. It wasn't a thing in configuration.nix (programs.weston.enable=true; threw an error and there was no page for it on the NixOS wiki), but it was available in nix-env (side note: why does nix-env -i take upwards of 30 seconds just to locate a package?), so I installed it, tried to run it, and promptly got an inscrutable "Permission denied" error with one Google result that had gone unresolved. Oh well, that's alright, I guess that's not supported just yet -- I'll install Sway instead. Great, now I have a GUI and all I need is a browser. nix-env -i firefox gave me the firefox-beta binary which displayed the crash reporter before even opening a browser window. Okay, note to self: always use configuration.nix. One programs.firefox.enable=true; and one nixos-rebuild switch later, I'm off to the races. Browser is up and running. Success! Now I'd like to install a Rust development environment so I can get back to work. According to NixOS wiki, I can copy paste this incantation into a shell.nix file and have rustup in there. Cool. After resolving a few minor hangups regarding compiler version, manually telling rustc where the linker is, and telling nix-shell that I also need cmake (which was thankfully pretty easy), I'm met with a "missing pkg-config file for openssl" error that I have absolutely no idea how to begin to resolve.

I'm trying to stick with it, I really am -- I love the idea that I can just copy my entire configuration to a brand new install by copying one file and the contents of my home directory and have it be effectively the same machine -- but I'm really struggling here. Surely people wouldn't rave about NixOS as much as they do if it was really this bad? What am I doing wrong?

Also unrelated but am I correct in assuming that I cannot install KDE without also installing the X server?

krzyz ,
@krzyz@szmer.info avatar

I made a similar switch half a year ago and thankfully for me it was relatively painless. Some stuff got significantly harder to set up (e.g. getting a nice rust development environment, getting ROCm to work with some torch-based project), but once all that is done I have complete or near-complete setup instructions on how to do it again, so I am hoping the trade-off here will be worth it in the future (or I will drop nixos and move to something else if I get bored, time will tell).

For the beginners, I recommend to go with the flakes setup right from the start, here is a nice guide that you can use as a reference: https://nixos-and-flakes.thiscute.world. I followed it through for the initial setup and I don't remember having to think about channels, at least initially: I picked the most recent stable one right at the start and only updated it to another - the unstable one - later on when I wanted to get some fresh kernel version. The upgrade was pretty painless, as the channel is just the root input of the flake: change that one line, nixos-rebuild switch and it's done. With flakes I occasionally run nix flake update (+ rebuild) to get newer versions of packages (as the flake will be locked to the state of the channel at the time you install/update). If anything (well, most) of the things go wrong, just go back to the previous build while you figure out what's causing issues (much better than the Arch experience of something going wrong after the update - better read Arch news regularly 🙃).

Besides updating my configuration to add/remove packages and doing the same for development environments (btw, for getting compile time dependencies into nix-shell, you need to add them to buildInputs of the shell: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/I_installed_a_library_but_my_compiler_is_not_finding_it._Why%3F ), I only ever use nix profile install nixpkgs#<package> if I want to just run some app without adding it permanently. After these 6 months of use, I have found out I am getting much less software/package cruft building up in my system. If I stop using something (especially a big think like a DE), I can just remove it from the configuration, rebuild and that's it. With Arch, I probably even forgot about half of the things I installed there over the years.

milicent_bystandr ,

Nix just had internal politics. Reject Nix; embrace Guix!

"I use FOSS btw"

gwen ,

nixos is the greatest .config file

Meron35 ,

You use Linux because of your superiority complex and need to be seen as cool.

I use Linux because I'm broke.

We are not the same.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I use Linux because I don't trust windows, I don't like the direction Microsoft is headed, and I'm bored.

We're not the same either, but that's ok. We can still all have each other's backs.

laurelraven ,

I mean, can't it be both?

SquirtleHermit ,

Not if you want to apply the "we are not the same meme" format. That... Like a sith... Only deals in absolutes.

laurelraven ,

So, this meme is a sith?

soggy_kitty ,

Move the h in "sith" two characters to the left. Then I'll agree with your statement

Redacted ,
@Redacted@lemmy.world avatar

Least contrarian Linux user.

ronalicious ,

yay gatekeeping!

bolexforsoup ,

Yeah this post is pretty cringe lol

saddlebag ,

I honestly hate this meme template. It’s barely ever used for anything smart and mostly just being a gatekeeper.

The guy saying he uses Linux because of some ‘90s game is way better.

zcd ,
the16bitgamer ,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

I use Linux because of the 3D desktop cube. Who doesn’t love the cube!

TheFish ,

Beryl?

explodicle ,

Wtf is her problem with the cube?

mexicancartel ,

And wobbly windows

rtxn ,

Sisko and Picard.

schnurrito ,

ahhh i remember being a bored teenager spending his life customizing his desktop too...

Nowadays I just want a working system where I can get things done, haven't touched my desktop environment settings in a while and certainly don't use things like cubes or wobbly windows anymore.

999999999 ,
@999999999@lemmy.ml avatar

For me it is very weird, no one introduced me formally to Linux(no one I knew run or heard of it), it felt like it was a legend. I never really got to know how good it was and always felt MacOS and Windows were lacking, never really in control of your system, never happy with my system, always patching stuff. The years went by and my curiosity only became larger as Mac and Windows experience was getting worse and worse. I already had experience Jailbreaking iPhones and flashing custom ROMs on Android since my school days, so last year I bought a PC and installed Ubuntu. Next thing I know my computer is breathing again, the grass was definitely greener here. So I switched for both reasons.

Redacted ,
@Redacted@lemmy.world avatar

Mmmmm fresh pasta.

For me it is very weird, no one introduced me formally to Lemmy(no one I knew run or heard of it), it felt like it was a legend. I never really got to know how good it was and always felt Reddit and Twitter were lacking, never really in control of your memes, never happy with my content, always downvoting stuff. The years went by and my curiosity only became larger as Reddit and Twitter experience was getting worse and worse. I already had experience shit posting and trolling on 4chan since my school days, so last year I signed up to Lemmy and posted my first meme. Next thing I know my feed is breathing again, the grass was definitely greener here. So I switched for both reasons.

999999999 ,
@999999999@lemmy.ml avatar

jesus

kibiz0r ,

I use Linux because Hackintosh is a dying platform and it only takes about 800 hours to get it almost as good.

criticon ,

This brought me memories. In college I had a Dell Mini with Intel atom 1st get. It was useless to run engineering apps like matlab or solidworks

I installed OSx86 and those apps ran a lot better using parallels than running natively on Windows, I was even able to play some games on it

glitchdx ,

You're absolutely right. Microsoft has systematically killed every reason I have for having their software on my pc. I'm not switching to linux because linux got better (although it certainly has). I'm ditching windows because windows now sucks more than I can bare.

Marduk73 ,
@Marduk73@sh.itjust.works avatar

I liked that one band before they became popular. That's what you sound like.

milicent_bystandr ,

I listen to band's music because I like their music.

You listen to band because you hate music.

We are not the same?

Enfors ,
@Enfors@lemm.ee avatar

My one thing I feel like I can brag about in tech circles is that I switched to Linux in 1995 (Linux kernel version 1.2.1), and I haven't looked back since. This was even before Windows 95 was released.

lightnegative ,

Yeah, but, like, I use Arch btw

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

ah, but did you use Stage 1 Gentoo? huh? huh?

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

That was before Gentoo

MasterNerd ,
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

Both? Both is good

Veraxus ,

Stop stealing my brainwaves!!!

But you are correct, nonetheless.

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