rambling_lunatic ,

Jokes on you I use NVIDIA

*Cries*

AppleMango ,

HDR is almost useless to me. I'll switch when wayland has proper remote desktop support (lmk if it does but I'm pretty sure it does not)

sushibowl ,

Seems like there's a bunch of solutions out there:

As of 2020, there are several projects that use these methods to provide GUI access to remote computers. The compositor Weston provides an RDP backend. GNOME has a remote desktop server that supports VNC. WayVNC is a VNC server that works with compositors, like Sway, based on the wlroots library. Waypipe works with all Wayland compositors and offers almost-transparent application forwarding, like ssh -X.

Do these not work for your use case?

KISSmyOSFeddit ,

OK but can you please call NVidiachan? I know you two don't get along but maybe you can ask her for some support?

Waffelson OP ,

NVidiachan is busy selling GPUS for AI, but she is also working on adding explicit sync

Ziglin ,

If I understand correctly Nvidia isn't doing anything to do with explicit sync, it just doesn't support implicit sync which is currently what Wayland uses because we don't have explicit sync yet. Explicit sync would work with existing Nvidia drivers.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Been watching this drama about HDR for a year now, and still can't be arsed to read up on what it is.

VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Joke's on you I can't afford an HDR display & also I'm colorblind.

accideath ,

You can still profit from the increase in brightness and contrast! Doesn’t make a good HDR screen any cheaper though…

mr_right ,
@mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Was gonna say the same thing, HDR is like flac and expensive amps for audiophiles
Maybe we should start calling them visualphiles ? 🤷‍♂️

VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

"FLAC? Mate I destroyed my ears when I was 14 and listening to Linkin Park MP3s grabbed off Kazaa in the cheapest chinese earbuds my allowance could buy, at the highest volume my fake iPod could drive. I cannot hear the subtleties in your FLAC if I tried."

Cheek aside I believe the word would be Videophiles to pair with Audiophiles.

palordrolap ,

You want to win me over? For starters, provide a layer that supports all hooks and features in xdotool and wmctrl. As I understand it, that's nowhere near present, and maybe even deliberately impossible "for security reasons".

I know about ydotool and dotool. They're something but definitely not drop-in replacements.

Unfortunately, I suspect I'll end up being forced onto Wayland at some point because the easy-use distros will switch to it, and I'll just have to get used to moving and resizing my windows manually with the mouse. Over and over. Because that's secure.

AMDIsOurLord ,

I think it's possible to make such a tool for Wayland, but in Wayland stuff like that are completely on the compositor

So, ask the compositor developers to expose the required shit and you can make such a tool

interdimensionalmeme ,

Network transparency OR BUST

AMDIsOurLord ,

Sure, let me dust off my fucking SPARCStation and connect up to my fucking NIS server so I can fuck off and login to my Solaris server and run X11

Fucking WHO needs mainframe oriented network transparency in the 21 century leave that shit in 1989 like it belongs

interdimensionalmeme ,

Ok, then buy an rtx 4090 for every computer in the house

AMDIsOurLord ,

I know this as a fact that Nvidia GT730 under Nouveau and Intel HD 2500 can run Wayland without issues

interdimensionalmeme ,

You misunderstand, I don't want crap graphics on every computer, I want the 4090 driving every computer without having to buy one per computer.

That's what you could do with network transparency.

AMDIsOurLord ,

RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) works leaps, bounds and miles better than the 1989 X11 Network Transparency system ever did. Especially so that X11 was never intended for hardware accelerated compositing or 3D apps.

interdimensionalmeme ,

PCs were not intended to have more than 640kb of ram and yet.

The blame can squarely be placed on nvidia for this decrepitude of X11 and its functionality which is in contradiction of nvidia's unlimited profit ambitions.

RDP is the anachronism. Why would I want to stream a whole desktop environement with its own separate taskbar, clock, whole user environement. Especially given how janky and laggy it is.

No, I want to stream -just- the application, it should use my system's color and temperature scheme, interoperate clipboard and drag&drop, be basically indistinguishable from a locally running app, except streaming at 500mbps AV1 hardware encoded, 12 ms latency max, 16k resolution, yes this is not a typo, 16 bit hdr, hdr that actually works, the sounds works too, works every time, yes 8 channel 192khz 24 bit lossless. Also capable of pure IP multicast streaming. Yes that means one application instance visible on multiple computer, at the same time and can be interacted with multiple users at the same time with -no- need for the app to be aware if any of this.

Do that with no jank and I'll sing wayland's praises.

minimalfootprint ,

HDR? Ah, you mean when videos keep flickering on Wayland!

I will switch when I need a new GPU.

Communist ,
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

Now that explicit sync has been merged this will be a thing of the past

jmankman ,

I'm not touching Wayland until it has feature parity with X and gets rid of all the weird bugs like cursor size randomly changing and my jelly windows being blurry as hell until they are done animating

pewpew ,
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Nah, I don't Need HDR

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