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except that it doesn't as anybody who's minimally literate would know

yogthos OP ,
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Your capacity to ignore the real world is the only thing that's brainless here.

yogthos OP ,
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Aww, I'm sorry your (great)grandparents had their serfs taken away and were forced to become productive members of society.

yogthos OP ,
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The sheer amount of ignorance required to believe this is equal parts astounding and depressing. Here's what currently existing options to this despotic system are currently achieving https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

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Kulaks were literal exploiters. Maybe learn some history, you'll find out why the term means a fist.

yogthos OP ,
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Capitalism kills more people each decade than even the wildest numbers capitalist chuds have ascribed to communism, and yet here you are. A stable genius.

yogthos OP ,
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Weird how industrialization isn't lifting people out of poverty in places like India the same way. Wonder what might be different. Maybe a smarty pants such as yourself could enlighten us. 🤔

yogthos OP ,
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Tell us, why were they called kulaks little buddy?

yogthos OP ,
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You make it sound so wholesome using your sanitized history from natopedia, meanwhile here's the reality, your grand grandparents were exploiting scumbags

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/6f4b438e-20ec-4f75-bf09-ae5a9168dc99.png

https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/149521

yogthos OP ,
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A far right corporatocratic government that makes exactly zero effort to help the people?

meanwhile in the real world https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

The problem is when the authoritarian government get old, realize they don’t own anything to secure their families’ continued lavish lifestyle, and reprivatize.

Authoritarian is a nonsensical term, every government holds authority by virtue of having the monopoly on violence, the only question is whose interests the government serves.

I literally went to school with a guy whose grandpa was pals with Mao. Guess whose family is now worth billions and lives a lavish lifestyle in a mansion in Northern China?

again, welcome to the real world https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25495509/

That’s where the value of democratically achieved socialism comes in, but it would have to be somewhere with an incredibly secure democracy and secure economic status, as the capitalist (elite) forces from outside and within will always work to destroy/impede socialism.

China already has democratic socialism. Only westerners pretend otherwise.

yogthos ,
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The government represents the interests of the class that holds power in society, which is the capital owning class under capitalism.

yogthos OP ,
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I mean inflation is literally a product of people who own businesses deciding to raise prices while depressing wages. So, it does largely come down to price gouging in a very real sense.

yogthos OP ,
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I mean there are other factors, but at the end of the day prices and wages are set by capitalists. So, it is ultimately a conscious choice of business owners to raise prices. Wolff does a pretty good job summing it up in my opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl1MXJZ6yOY

yogthos OP ,
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Well then, mr. economy understander, maybe you can explain to us who raises the prices. Saying that money devaluates because more currency is being issued shows an utterly infantile understanding of how the economy works on your part. Money doesn't just magically lose value just because more currency is issued, as anybody who has a clue regarding how monetary systems work would understand.

Also, not sure why anybody would think a cabal of businessmen deciding to raise prices would be necessary. A rational person would understand that businessmen can have a shared class interest while acting completely independently. Businesses raise prices because they want to increase their profits, there's no grand conspiracy needed. The fact that you can't even understand such basic things suggests that you're in no position to deride actual economists just because they happen to use the medium of youtube to explain things.

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So no actual critique of the points being made, just oooh spooky style!

yogthos OP ,
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Again, Cantillon effect is not a force of nature, it's a result of conscious actions of individuals who own capital.

yogthos OP ,
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You still haven't provided any actual counterargument here.

yogthos OP ,
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Imagine not understanding that large financial capitalists are in fact the ones who own the money printers. You too can be an economy understander with very little effort if you spent a bit of time actually understand about the subject you're opining on.

yogthos OP ,
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I'd be really offended by this if I had a shred of respect for your opinion.

yogthos OP ,
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Because I've seen what you have to say, and it's pretty clear there's not much to be learned here. Perhaps you should take your own advice and try to learn things instead of running around smugly arguing with people who know more than you on the subject.

yogthos OP ,
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The people who were collaborating with US against their country were trying to flee when US backed regime collapsed, news at 11!

yogthos OP ,
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There's nothing here about hating others. The meme is talking about how the boss appropriates the value the worker produces under capitalism. The meme is criticizing the system of capitalist relations that produces millionaires and billionaires. These people don't just magically appear out of thin air. They're a product of the system. Educate yourself FFS.

yogthos OP ,
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That's literally what's happening, the boss appropriates the value that your labor produces, and then pays you a small portion of that in form of wages. Hope that helps clear things up for you.

yogthos OP ,
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The whole point of memes is to kick off discussion. Meanwhile, not sure how pointing out that bosses appropriate salary of the workers pits the workers against each other in your mind. You're making a really poor argument here and you just keep doubling down on it. You sound like you just like to argue for the sake of arguing to be honest. Seems like the only one who's commenting to feel superior to people here is you.

yogthos OP ,
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This is absolutely hilarious. First you complain the meme is too simplistic, then when explained the context you complain that people are talking down to you. Nowhere have you provided any actual critique of what Marx says, or why you claim it doesn't apply today.

I'm again confused how pointing out that workers need to organize against capital owners is making us fight against each other. It seems that you're very confused and angry person who might want to go outside and touch some grass.

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🤣

yogthos OP ,
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🥱

yogthos OP ,
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See this is what I'm talking about. Poor reading comprehension all around. I've addressed this here in detail https://lemmy.ml/comment/9575251

The boss you employs your dumb ass appropriates all the value that you produce, then pays you a small portion of that value in form of salary. That’s the system where you don’t get benefit of your labor.

When you are an employee, which is the vast majority of population who do not own businesses, you are being exploited by an owner such as yourself who steals your labor.

A business that actually benefits the workers is a worker owned cooperative where people doing the work get to keep the profits. Evidently this concept is really hard for you to wrap your head around.

yogthos OP ,
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lol, you ignorant

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