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This kind of cycle back and forth between full-throated conservative idiocy and then demanding to be saved from the consequences of their own actions is what really makes me so depressed about the majority of voters.

I could excuse a young person maybe for being naive and inexperienced enough to think conservativism might have some kind of merit, but grown-ass adults have literally no excuse to ever believe the right-wing ever about anything.

Not just in the UK, but everywhere.

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There has certainly been a lot, but my gut still says China or maybe Soviet Union.

It really depends on how far back you are going and what criteria you're using to ascribe responsibility for any given type of death.

For example, if a CCP guard kills a Uyghur prisoner in one of the camps that's obviously a death under the CCP, but if China creates an economic crisis in some country via its Belt and Road debt colonialism campaign and someone there subsequently dies due to hardship stemming from those economic issues is the CCP responsible?

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I'd think so, yeah, the CCP alone has pretty insane numbers, which is saying a lot.

You have to keep in mind that there's something like a million Uighurs in China that got scooped up and put in concentration camps 2010s. There's Tianamen, Tibet, the purges during Xi's rise to power, the brutalization of HK and the literal millions dead under Mao through both intentional acts to purge the party and punish dissidents and simply the incompetance of the the failed economic theories.

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Millions of people died in China during the Great Leap, with estimates ranging from 15 to 55 million, making the Great Chinese Famine the largest or second-largest[1] famine in human history.
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Pretty high number, and that's not even counting anything more contemporary.

Beginning in 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, incarcerated more than an estimated one million Turkic Muslims without any legal process in internment camps. Operations from 2016 to 2021 were led by Xinjiang CCP Secretary Chen Quanguo.[2] It is the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.
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So, yes, the genocide in Gaza is criminal, no less egregious or evil and those committing or supporting it should be brought before a tribunal, but they're still rookie numbers compared to the CCP. Even if you go all the way back to the Nakba. There's simply no way around it.

If you're going to act morally outraged about the US, you can't then just skip over China because it's politically uncomfortable. Xi had execution vans ffs.

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Ah yes, Germany is in those early stages where the nazis deny being nazis. Just look to the US for a glimpse of the future. Next step will be to try to take the meaning out of the word, then they'll slip nazi rhetoric into their propaganda in small deniable ways, and eventually they just drop the facade and start saying "What's wrong with being a nazi?"

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