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Pilferjinx , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

Does the UK drink wine at the pubs or something? I don't live there, but from all the UK media I consume, beer is almost always the drink.

funkless_eck ,

wine is likely more popular at home, and some people have a weird thing about women drinking beer.

Moghul , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

I'm genuinely shocked that people drink more wine than beer in Denmark. Considering Tuborg and Carlsberg both come from there, and the amount of beer I see people drink publicly, it seems genuinely doubtful to me.

Successful_Try543 ,

The title of the graphics is a bit misleading, as it's not the amount of wine, beer or spirits which is most in each country, it is the the amount of (pure) alcohol from wine, beer or spirits. And one often can see people drinking wine in the Nordics.

verstra , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

Marking for Slovenia is wrong. I do have statistical data from our statistical agency and it is not even close: 8.5l/person/year of vine and 26.5/person/year of beer (including non-alcohol).

Arguably, vine has higher alcohol content (~11.5%) compared to beer (~4.9%), but even even if we look at "alcohol consumed from wine/beer per person per year", we get 0,9775L from vine and 1,2985 from beer.

These findings are in agreement with my intuition based on me seeing what people drink.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Source stat.si, year 2018 (latest available): https://pxweb.stat.si:443/SiStatData/sq/23566

Successful_Try543 , (Bearbeitet )

As the numbers for beer from stat.si do not differentiate between alcohol free and usual beer, its bold to assume the weighted (by share of consumption) average beer contains 4.9 vol.% alcohol unless you know that it may be totally uncommon to drink non-alcoholic beer.

verstra ,

True. It is uncommon, I'd guess every 10th beer is non-alcoholic. But then there is also radler, with lower alcohol content, which would probably represent 3 out of every 10 beers.

I_Has_A_Hat , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

How is Russia not spirits? Did they stop drinking Vodka or something?

Aux ,

No, they mix vodka with beer. The beer has a higher proportion of course.

federalreverse , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

I demand this be overlaid against the potato/tomato map!

tomten , in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

Ok so it's by pure alcohol and wine is typically about twice the alcohol than beer so I would guess by just amount beer is still a bit more.

mundane , (Bearbeitet ) in The most consumed type of alcoholic drink in Europe

I was a bit surprised by the wine in Sweden. I sometimes feel like an outcast with my wine on AWs and other outings. It seems that most people around me prefer beer.
Maybe it's a matter of selection bias since I tend to be around the same group of people.

Servais OP ,
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Found this table from the source, wine seems to be quite ahead!

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/88d3ba5e-e7a4-464f-b724-a48ab7e5ae77.png

Successful_Try543 , (Bearbeitet )

The diagram is the amount of pure alcohol. Beer typilally contains 3.5 % - 5 % alcohol and wine 12 %, thus the consumption of beer in litres is larger than wine.

However, I was also surprised how much wine (with or without alcohol) is consumed in Sweden considering its price.

Edit: phrasing

sunzu ,

"Pure" ? You mean generally 40 ethanol?

Successful_Try543 , (Bearbeitet )

No, the calculation is like 0.5 litre beer with 5 vol.% alcohol contain 25 ml pure (100 %) alcohol and these 25 ml go into the statistics as alcohol from the consumption of beer.

AchtungDrempels ,

Pretty sure in sweden supermarket sold beer maxes out at 3.5% alc if i remenber that right.

Successful_Try543 , (Bearbeitet )

Yes, beer with up to 3.5 % you can buy in a supermarket. Beer above 3.5 % is called strong beer (starköl) which you can only buy at Systembolaget, the governmental alcohol store. Considering a large part of the beer is light beer (lättöl) or folks beer (folköl) below 3.5 %, the amount of beer to cover the 36 % pure alcohol is even higher.

Muscar ,

I would have thought that 10 years ago, but wine has become a lot more popular since then. I know it's partly my age and the age of people I mingle with but I've noticed it for younger people too when I'm out and about, common to see groups of ~20 year olds with those 1l or 3l tetra pak wines during weekends.

some_guy , in 23:21, Köyliö, Finland

I used to live in the Midwest of USA. It was very flat and trees were not absent but sparse. The sunrise and sunset were the best feature. This is beautiful.

SuddenDownpour , in Tax The Rich

Where does an EU Citizens’ Initiative progresses to after reaching the threshold?

phneutral OP ,

It obliges the Commission to propose a Directive or Regulation. Please have a look at the wikipedia page for further information.

footoro , in Do you guys like memes more?

I think memes are cool and this one is accurate lol. I’m just hoping this won’t become some right wing community like 2westerneurope4u. Some memes were funny but all the racism and other right wing bullshit made it pretty much unbearable.

pumpkinseedoil ,

Isn't the "racism" (pretty much only between different European countries where you can't really speak about different "races") there ironical?

footoro ,

Nah it wasn’t really the funny kind of stuff, like making fun of your neighbors, more like typical 4chan incel kind of racism

Servais , in Do you guys like memes more?
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Salaries in countries like Poland are increasing, especially in IT.

Good to see Polish people improving their quality of life!

Maalus ,

Increasing doesn't mean affordable yet. It sucks over here, even in IT. Poles are still the cheap workforce in IT for other countries.

Servais ,
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Interesting, from what I've seen on the market, the B2B formula can be nice if you are able to work as a freelancer, I even see a few people coming from other countries to Poland for that.

But I guess it mainly depends who you work for.

Maalus ,

B2B is being cut down from working better than a regular work agreement. The golden days of it are gone. Also, being able to be fired in 5 mins without any notice other than a "fuck you get out" sucks.

riodoro1 ,

Fuck yes for IT but people working their asses of at lidl deserve a home too. The housing market is out of control here, and a take away pizza is now a luxury.

I would say with confidence that while QOL was increasing rapidly in Poland in the last two decades this one is sadly different. Late stage capitalism sucks.

Servais ,
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Indeed, but to be honest, it's not like housing is really affordable in Western Europe either.

Seems like a global issue unfortunately

federalreverse ,

Let me tell you about Tokyo.

Servais ,
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Do you live in Tokyo? How is it over there? I heard that the mixed housing regulation helped a bit, is it the case for you?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-01/four-unique-ways-tokyo-approaches-housing/102784020

federalreverse ,

I've been to Tokyo (and it's awesome!) but I don't live there.

I've only glanced at the headlines of the article you posted and most of the factors appear to be in the article. There are a few things that are missing though, afaiu, and it really is a bag of mixed blessings:

  • fairly relaxed building codes which means building gets cheaper
  • average houses, especially if they're on the smaller side, are only a couple of decades old -- the Japanese demolish and replace their relatively cheap housing fairly often
  • less space for motorized traffic
  • not a lot of greenery

Cursorily related to the final point: I was also really shocked at Japanese parks. On the plus side, they're extremely neat. However, most of them have super-wide ways, so half the park is just paved over. And of course there are opening hours, usually they're open until 6pm but they have all kinds of alarms and announcements going off in the 30 minutes prior.

Servais ,
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Interesting, thanks!

riodoro1 ,

Sure is. You cant even run away from it

Servais , in Do you guys like memes more?
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Memes are welcome!

where_am_i , (Bearbeitet ) in Do you guys like memes more?

Is meme, has eastern yurop, it's bad, gemany gud, clearly upvote.

Next, please, south yurop loud chaos, balkan hate, merica no understand us. Upvotes stonk, promise.

taanegl , in Do you guys like memes more?
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haha oligopoly...

kurcatovium , in Provence Kitsch
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Very nice. If I ever decide to visit will locals hate me for disliking wine?

AchtungDrempels OP ,

I mean, you don't need to tell them. Just order something else :)

Edit: actually i think you should give an ice cold glass of rosé a try though. If it really isn't for you pour it secretly into the lavender pot.

kurcatovium ,
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Nah, I've tried many different kinds of wine on plenty of occasions and never liked one. Except for Porters, which are technically wines too, but... I'd rather have glass of water than wine.

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