JimmyBigSausage ,

Brentrance.

executivechimp ,
@executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Breturn

JimmyBigSausage ,

Breunion

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

When the EU turns around and predictably tells us to fuck off:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/216dfcf6-a9de-4e28-a310-217a3b2d9061.webp

onion ,

The EU won't turn you down, but you won't want to meet the necessary conditions

Aceticon ,

As the vote for new EU Members is one with veto rules, my bet is that it's going to be an opportunity for all manner of EU members to make demands, such as Spain demanding Gibraltar back.

FreudianCafe ,

You guys look at ursula van der liar and the shit EU is doing and think "we need that"? Wow

Dekkia ,
@Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it avatar

If there's anything to be learnt from Brexit, it's that the EU is (despite its shortcomings) better than no EU. Even for wealthy countries.

FreudianCafe ,

As far as i can see if you guys join EU again you will be going to war. What does the EU has to offer in return?

PhlubbaDubba ,

Ah yes, because any scenario where the rest of the EU going to war wouldn't also basically mean automatically that the UK was also going to war already!

with that .ml tag you'd think someone would be better at remembering NATO is still a thing and the only non overlap between the two are countries that are defacto protected by it anyways.

14th_cylon ,

with that .ml tag

.ml is not .mil

i am not going to blame you, you are not alone in making that mistake 😆

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/07/typo-leaks-millions-of-us-military-emails-to-mali-web-operator/

e8d79 ,

No, lemmy.ml is full of tankie brainlets.

14th_cylon ,

that's my point. read what i am reacting to.

e8d79 ,

I read the original post as 'a tankie shouldn't forget that NATO is a thing' not as a confusion between .ml and .mil.

14th_cylon ,

i read it as "with that .ml, you might be military enthusiast, so you should know about nato"...

FreudianCafe ,

I made a question and you came up all offended. The downvotes makes me think you are not alone. What to think about it?

Dekkia ,
@Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it avatar

I'm not British.

What war?

idk, all the stuff that worked just fine before brexit maybe.

Maggoty ,

They're still a NATO member....

benjhm ,

Well such timescale would in any case depend on EU, not on convenience for any british parliament. There are now N. Macedonia, Albania, Montenegro, [ Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo ?], Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, [Turkey ?] all in the queue to join EU. On the other hand, it might help from point of view of geographic and economic balance, otherwise the centre of 'gravity' will shift even further SE away from Brussels. I think to expand EU has to reform processes, to end all vetos and generalise multi-speed / opt-outs.
Meanwhile a new british government could implement obviously convenient win-win cooperation step by step, until there isn't so much left to change. And I'd be happy to see Scotland and Northern Ireland take a lead.

14th_cylon ,

There are now N. Macedonia, Albania, Montenegro, [ Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo ?], Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, [Turkey ?] all in the queue to join EU

it is not FIFO queue. some of these countries are more prepared to actually join than the others.

benjhm ,

Sure, but diplomacy is not logical, and EU has a habit (mistake?) to do things in mega packages (look at 2004). Last I heard, the gossip was 'by 2030'.

14th_cylon ,

my point is, if they actually asked, i am betting my left hand they would be in in the first possible wave. 2030 would actually be super fast.

benjhm ,

Hmm, did you consult the next french president about that ?

Maggoty ,

Nope, everyone behind Ukraine is now screwed. If they want to speed things up they need to help Ukraine win it's war. Sorry, I don't make the rules I just pretend to know them.

Although... Moldova and Georgia might as well. We all know they're next on Putin's list.

thedarkfly ,

[..] 43% in favour of rejoining the bloc, compared with 40% who want to stay out. But once the 18% who say they don’t know are taken out, 52% back EU membership with 48% opposing it [...]

That's not a "majority of voters", that's a "majority of people who report to know what they want". These are not the same populations.

grue ,

These are not the same populations.

According to the brexiteers, it was!

It's only fair to use the same measurement standard now, right?

blackn1ght ,

As much as I'd like this to happen I don't think there's a big push to rejoin. Nobody is talking about this this election.

Denjin ,

Crucially, although 52% of people polled think the downsides of Brexit outweigh the positives, engagement over Brexit is at the lowest it's ever been. Most people simply don't care about the issue any more.

niktemadur ,

Is Brexit an ignorant, lazy, myopic tantrum you can undo?

Especially when you keep on giving the goddamned Tories the keys to the castle in every election that matters.

nAh I'm NoT vOtiNg MaTe PoLiTiCs Is FoR wAnKeRs sHaLL wE gO fOr dRiNkS iNsTeAd?

gian ,

Is Brexit an ignorant, lazy, myopic tantrum you can undo?

No, you can only ask to join again, then start the discussion and if everyone agree, join again. But this time it will be on EU terms, not UK terms.
And the process can take years.

fubarx ,
retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

This kind of cycle back and forth between full-throated conservative idiocy and then demanding to be saved from the consequences of their own actions is what really makes me so depressed about the majority of voters.

I could excuse a young person maybe for being naive and inexperienced enough to think conservativism might have some kind of merit, but grown-ass adults have literally no excuse to ever believe the right-wing ever about anything.

Not just in the UK, but everywhere.

AlexisFR ,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Well their voting system that overinflates the seats of the winning party does not help either.

IbnLemmy ,

Clickbait

YourPrivatHater ,
@YourPrivatHater@ani.social avatar

Yeah when they fixed their bs and gone through the entire year long joining process and without extras.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Also, lol

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