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Mrkawfee , an Europe in Western businesses backtrack on their Russia exit plans

Companies aren't exiting Israel either and they're carrying out a genocide.

Badeendje , an Europe in Western businesses backtrack on their Russia exit plans
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And their assets will be seized by the government.

But it important to keep repeating .. companies are not moral. They are profit driven, cost externalizing entities. If you want or need them to do something for the public good.. you legislate them.

One thing Russia understands better than the western world. It might be a dog and pony show, but they don't ask nicely. When dealing with companies, that is the only way.

A_A , an Europe in Moldova defies Russia with EU security pact
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i see this as yet another sign that Europe is dragged into war by the stupidity and arrogance of russia.

TCB13 ,
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Let me correct you: this is another sign that Europe was dragged into a war because the US needed to jack up their economy with a manufactured war that, besides Ukraine, hurts Europe the most.

knatschus ,

The us wasn't the one invading (for once atleast)

ManixT ,

I know, right? If Moldova just accepts it has no right to exist and gives everything it has to Russia, then America can stop making a war in Europe. I mean seriously... Why does America think it has the right to tell these countries they are allowed to exist and don't belong to Russia. Typical American arrogance and war mongering.

DarkThoughts ,

Shit ruscists say.

TCB13 ,
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How delusion one must be to think that the US isn't profiting from this war? C'mon, the US just loves to sell all kinds of militar equipment. Russia has been a problem since ever but a bigger problem is the US that poke around the entire globe for wars and don't really care about the impact because for them it's all profits. Unfortunately for me, this time, they decided to poke around Ukraine and Russia.

DarkThoughts ,

Stop spreading disinformation, you fascist loving clown.

TCB13 ,
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Clearly you don't live in Europe, you aren't paying the electrical, gas and whatnot bill that this war caused. Get over yourself, your American lifestyle is only possible because a large chunk of your economy is only possible due to wars somewhere else.

A_A ,
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Hi @TCB13,
i will try to meet you half way. Clearly you disagree and might have been triggered by my first comment above which was bold in a sense.

i will agree with you that America also, as a country, has done some bad, terrible things abroad and so did many other countries ... but please tell me this : Do you at least put some blame on russia for the war in Ukraine ?

TCB13 ,
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Of course I place blame, and a lot, on Russia. After all they were the ones to react. But frankly Ukraine has a ton of as well.

cygnus ,
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Coward.

DarkThoughts ,

It's pretty easy to figure out that I'm German, which means I pay one of the highest bills within Europe. Dumbass.

TCB13 ,
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Okay great, so you’re in denial about what’s going on around you. There’s a bigger picture than what you’re painting, I’m not saying Russia acted correctly nor that we shouldn’t blame it but Ukraine and the US aren’t saints either and profits are being made.

DarkThoughts ,

You should lay off the conspiracytard bullshit because you've been fed Russian propaganda that you're now parroting around without even thinking about it. Russia can leave Ukraine at any given day and return them their land that they've stolen.

Sidyctism ,

No one was arguing in favor of the usa in the entire thread. Anti-russia=/=pro-usa. Pathetic attempt at trying to derail the conversation

brainrein ,

It's pretty easy to figure out that I'm German

Don't say that.

Not every German rages through the comments section spewing hate and racism like you are doing.

Some Germans even like to argue sensibly and discuss things rationally.

DarkThoughts ,

Oh? Please point me to where I was raging and spewing hate and racism. I'll wait.

clifftiger ,

Ruscist might get misinterpreted as a racist term, if you do not know what it's actual meaning. (I also had to look it up tbh ;) )

DarkThoughts ,

Not sure how that could be misinterpreted. Either you know, or you don't - in which case you either do what you did and look it up, or you just shut your mouth and don't say anything you clearly have no clue about.

Either way, some of their comments might point into a Tankie direction too, but we'll see if they even bother to reply back.

clifftiger ,

Relax. I just pointed out that it might be misinterpreted. Not that it was racist or that those tankies defending that war stand correct.

DarkThoughts ,

Not sure why you're telling me to relax? lol

NaibofTabr ,

Ah yes, the US caused the Russian army to invade Ukraine. Makes perfect sense.

Nothing at all to do with Putin's warmongering megalomania.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

Well you see comrade, Russia had to invade Ukraine because .01% of their population are nazis and the east ukranians want to be Russian anyway and NATO is clearly provoking them and it's going to be over in 5 days pinkie promise.

These are all things I've seen actual russians claim.

zaphod ,

To make it slightly more optimistic, this hopefully prevents Russia from invading Moldova (at least any further than Transnistria) and avoids another war or the expansion of the ongoing war in Ukraine to Moldova.

A_A ,
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Yes, I certainly hope that russia decides to stop any of those invasions in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya and other countries and this would happened, I hope, if enough countries, including most of Europe, opposes them.
(reading your comment i realized that Transnistria was part of Moldova ... I was mixing it with Kaliningrad Oblast)

cygnus , an Europe in Moldova defies Russia with EU security pact
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Love to see it. Hopefully Transnistria is returned to its rightful place soon.

TheGrandNagus , an Europe in EU would need 50% tariffs to curb imports of Chinese electric cars

As it stands, there's no real way to compete on price with a country like China that can do so much processing of raw materials in-house, has practically unlimited, very cheap labour, very cheap energy, almost no environmental regulations, outright steals tech, and straight-up uses slave labour.

Some form of protectionism is likely needed.

That said, car companies have been pissing me off recently. The prices are insane, and I don't particularly want to give them even less of a reason to keep pricing competitive.

jmcs , an Europe in EU would need 50% tariffs to curb imports of Chinese electric cars

What the EU needs is a proper mobility policy to reduce the demand for cheap Chinese crap for every day commuting.

plistig , an Europe in US urged Ukraine to halt strikes on Russian oil refineries

warning that the drone strikes risk ... provoking retaliation, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

Yeah, Russia might even start a war with Ukraine if they didn't stop! Could you imagine that?

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