foone , Englisch
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I think a lot of time when the Torment Nexus thing is brought up, people are getting the arrow of causality the wrong way around. It's not that necessarily that Bobby Techbro read "Don't Create the Torment Nexus" and was inspired to make one, even if that's what the marketing tries to sell it as.

No I think that's not giving scifi authors the proper respect as futurists. They looked at how things were going and thought "man, this might lead to a Torment Nexus" and then wrote a story about that.

foone OP ,
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And they were right. A Torment Nexus did get built, it just got named after the one in their book because of the obvious precedent.

Had they not written the book, the Torment Nexus would still exist, it just would have been called the TechCo.io TortureHub instead.

Pashhur ,
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@foone
Except if the author said that the service would be provided by the actual Mafia. Then the name is already taken so they must invent some new name like "Uber torments" or something.

Dnmrules ,
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@foone you are 100000000% right

JeffGrigg ,
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@foone

'We have created The Torment Nexus, inspired from the award winning classic scifi dystopia "Please Don't Build The Torment Nexus".'

is a really odd marketing message for something they would have built anyway.

dohbuheee ,
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@foone Really, though, the techbros probably did not read these novels, or even watch any films or TV series based on them, but rather have just heard if such plots having once existed in some book. These people aren't smart enough to actually read anything.

sps ,
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@foone

Favourite example of author-as-uncanny-futurist:

https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritzer_11_15/

ids1024 ,
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@foone This is definitely true.

Though also, if people are naming their companies things like "Soylent" and "Palantir", they do seem to be somewhat influenced by fiction. And getting the wrong message.

brouhaha ,
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@foone
"ALL OUR TORMENT ARE BELONG TO YOU"
– Nexus

JonnyT ,
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@foone @blogdiva You mean, "Techbros will absolutely build this thing I'm warning you about, please make sure they don't because this is what will happen otherwise."

foone OP ,
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@JonnyT @blogdiva exactly. They're going "someday someone might make a Torment Nexus. Here's my ideas about what terrible shit would happen if someone made it".

EndlessMason ,
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@foone
Don't worry about it though, most of the good torment is behind a pay wall
@JonnyT @blogdiva

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