Etterra , (Bearbeitet )

Yeah but that would enable the prolonging of people's lives. Given how shit life and the world are, I can't engage or support that; it'd unethical for me force people to stay alive. Y'all do what you think is right, but I see it as needless cruelty.

kofe ,

Er. You think everyone's forced to accept donated blood (I'll agree there's probably some that would have preferred not, but everyone?)? Or is this a whoooooosh moment

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

The last time I gave blood they wiggled the needle in my vein and gave me the wickedest bruise of my life.

Saganaki ,

Similar experience. I doubled down by playing volleyball afterwards. The bruise was practically from wrist to shoulder.

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

The whole time I donate I think about the person who pays for it on the other end.

kadu ,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Me suspecting my date is actually an Aedes spp. mosquito:

"heeeey so how about after this drink we hit the blood bank? You know, just the two of us and a lot, and I do mean a lot, of blood bags? How about that huh?"

stinerman ,

I'm O- so I give two units of red cells and get saline and the plasma/antibodies back. The guy at the donation site says "make sure you don't drink any alcoholic beverages for 24 hours...but you can have one if you want." He looks back to see if his manager is around and then whispers "you can have two but don't leave the house."

TheOakTree ,

I can't say I have something as useful as O-, but at least I can still do Power Red donos... though I forget if I'm A or B negative.

stinerman ,

You have to be A- or O- to do power red.

TheOakTree ,
I_Fart_Glitter ,

It's a requirement at Red Cross but it's just a recommendation at Vitalent- anyone can do anything but they have "ideal" donation types for each blood type.

https://www.vitalant.org/blog/blood-donation-basics/power-red-donation

https://www.vitalant.org/learn/blood-types

Kiosade ,

People are so weird in their obsession with alcohol and getting drunk…

stinerman ,

I felt this way at one time when I was younger. Now I don't give a shit what people want to do with their own bodies.

ipkpjersi ,

It's fun if you don't overdo it, as long as it's not an obsession and as long as it doesn't interfere with your life. Like all things, moderation is key.

Kusimulkku ,

Can be fine if you overdo it

Donkter ,

I think what you're missing is that getting drunk is very fun.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

This is it.

Some people drink 1 tequila, do a Hangover, and go, "Drinking is bad" smh

Boxtifer ,

To be fair, alcohol is a poison.

meliaesc ,

So is caffeine but we love coffee, tea, and chocolate too.

Batbro ,

I get where you're going but how many coffees does it take to kill a person vs how many beers

meliaesc ,

About 4g of caffeine is lethal, https://www.npr.org/2023/12/07/1217758671/a-lawsuit-says-a-man-died-after-drinking-a-highly-caffeinated-beverage-at-panera

The lethal dose of alcohol is about 5 to 8 grams per kilogram of body weight.

Kiosade ,

Not to me, I’ve never understood that sentiment. I can act as silly as I want without being drunk, and I hate how it turns other people into almost different people. If I wanted to be friends with their drunken selves, I wouldn’t be friends with their sober selves.

Donkter ,

Yeah I've noticed there's a divide in the population in which half the people "know what it's like" to get drunk, and it really isn't for them. And they're baffled by people who love to get drunk. It's a different experience. People don't get drunk just "to act as silly as they want", that should be obvious.

EpicFailGuy ,
@EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world avatar

some people prefer therapy,

The rest of us just drink until we can't remember why we're stressed.

Don't knock it till you've tried it.

AVincentInSpace ,

That sounds like a one way trip to becoming an alcoholic but you do you ig

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Saving lives is pretty hot, but its a shame they don't let you do this if you're gay or use cannabis.

Edit: this is getting out of hand, I do not live in the US. Happy for y'all that do! Although, overall I'm pretty glad not to be living there.

explodicle ,

WHAT? I've donated blood while high on cannabis.

ExfilBravo ,

Same. Hit the vape right before going in. Whoever gets that blood is probably going to fail a drug test.

importedreality ,
@importedreality@programming.dev avatar

The American Red Cross has this on their website:

Q: I'm a heavy cannabis user. Can a transfusion recipient fail a drug test if they receive my blood?

A: No.

They don't care if you're high as a kite as long as it doesn't impair your memory or comprehension (probably for legal reasons).

eestileib ,

If you're talking about the American Red Cross, they have removed most of the explicitly queerphobic rules. They still ask about high risk activities, but in a non gendered way.

It was kind of insane, though, that 20 years ago I was banned for life for having sucked cock. Turns out I was just boymoding, and as soon as I transitioned cocksucking became just fine for blood donation.

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nope, the world isn't the US.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

If

Your brain: we will just ignore that

raptorattacks ,

Just discovered these rule changes based on your comment. Unfortunately my partner and I still can't donate blood (they're on PREP, and I was in a vaccine trial that disqualifies me), but it's cool that they've finally eliminated the worst of the queerphobia in the US.

I experienced the reverse of you - as soon as I transitioned I was disqualified as a trans man who has sex with men, even if the sex was identical pre- and post-transition. These were the previous "updated" rules that were supposed to be less queerphobic, but obviously weren't hitting the mark.

eestileib ,

Why TF would being on PrEP make you a higher risk?

raptorattacks ,

Quoting from the red cross FAQ:

The waiting period is required due to these drugs interfering with viral replication and thus possibly altering the detectability of diagnostic and screening tests for HIV, including extending the window period prior to detectable infection or a delay in producing antibodies.

...

The Red Cross and the FDA support individuals making responsible choices for their health and the broader health of our communities. The Red Cross and FDA are involved in ongoing research, data collection and assessment related to transfusion safety, including the use of HIV preventative medications, and will continue to seek opportunities that could potentially help lead to additional changes. The Red Cross does not encourage individuals to stop taking these medications in order to donate blood.

jodanlime ,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I actually did this in my early 20s.
Girlfriend at the time got super drunk super fast so I had to stay sober to drive us home.

Vilian ,

...getting black out is cute?

HonkTonkWoman ,

I mean… dunno about you, but I look my best with that sweet patina of sweat glistening on my forehead, a drop of drool meandering towards my chin, and a hot load in my drawers.

I may not remember some nights, but I rest easy knowing that I’m a damn fine lookin drunk. Too much booze also makes me smell amazing.

Oh, and I’m a great drunk cook too. You can absolutely trust me with that knife.

ryannathans ,

God yeah lemme hold her hair while she yaks up dinner

ChonkyOwlbear ,

Quick way of finding out if your date has any STIs.

Diplomjodler3 ,

And/or is a rapist

ryannathans ,

Or is gay

ProdigalFrog ,
@ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net avatar

Gay people can donate blood now! (In the US, at least) :D

Also @photonic_sorcerer

LethalSmack ,

Sort of. Still can’t donate if you’re taking prep (hiv preventative) or if you’ve had sex with multiple people.

Need to be off prep for 3 months and not have sex with new or multiple partners.

The no prep part is a tough ask. Especially with how healthcare is

Much better than it was but it still excludes a huge portion of the community

HenriVolney ,

In my country, men are asked the same questions and no one is allowed to give blood if they changed partners in the last 3 months. I imagine it is the same for women.

LethalSmack ,

Unfortunately it applies to gay men only. Our straight counterparts can switch up partners as much as they want.

Well, it’d apply to bisexual men who’ve had male partners as well.

I should also point out it doesn’t have to be new partners. Just if you’ve had more than one partner you can’t donate even if it’s an exclusive polygamous relationship.

QTpi ,

In the US, it is an Individual Donor Assessment and applies to everyone. Everyone gets the same question tree, regardless of sexual orientation. If you have had a new partner in the last 3 months or have multiple partners that doesn't defer you, it sends you to the next tier of question: have you engaged in anal sex. Yes to anal with a new partner or multiple partners is the deferral. If you haven't had a new partner or multiple partners in the last 3 months, you will not be asked about anal sex. Canada went live with their individual donor assessment a year before the US and has noted a slight drop in donations in straight donors because they are now being deferred for high risk activity when they were previously missed.

Prep is listed under a medication deferral. First responders that take prep for protection from workplace exposure are deferred as well.

(I'm a blood banker)

blanketswithsmallpox ,

... Where do you live that rape DNA has been sequenced any time in the most recent 10 years or so? That's so much raping that could be hand before you get from donating blood.

Don't be a fuckface just because you rape. Try to cancel it out by donating blood, we use rapist blood just as well as we use a frat bros.

BenVimes ,

At least last time I donated blood in my country (Canada), you could discretely indicate "do not use" by applying a different sticker to the bag. This was done in case someone got peer pressured into donating but didn't want to reveal something private that would have disqualified them otherwise.

emergencyfood ,

We (India) don't have that, mainly because blood bags don't grow on trees, but there's a question about sleeping eight hours the previous night that always seemed irrelevant. Now that I think about it, it might have been added for this purpose.

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