Hobbes_Dent ,

If you reinstall enough things, enough times, it becomes a kink.

nifty OP ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

OSSexual

qprimed ,

sigh. here we go again...

unzips archive

mihnt ,
@mihnt@lemmy.ca avatar

Extract here

VoteNixon2016 , 
sudo apt install microsoft-edge-stable

"Copilot, show me Linux Rule 34"

FreshLight , (Bearbeitet )
@FreshLight@sh.itjust.works avatar

You are edging?

Cool. I'm not into that kinda stuff, but whatever floats your boat :)

Emerald ,

Open Source Sexuality

Damage ,

GNU/OSSexual

PixeIOrange ,
@PixeIOrange@lemmy.world avatar

Ventoy ftw

Tyoda ,

My laptop's mic seems to have some contact issues. It never worked for a second on windows. I put Linux on it, and it usually just works. When it doesn't, some percussive maintenance does a quick job of fixing it. I guess I was dealt the opposite hand than usual.

SpaceNoodle ,

No, that's how it usually goes these days.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Pffft. I just boot from a live cd so changes are gone at reboot. Why install if you're just going to break something?

azvasKvklenko ,

Would change distro to something easier to maintain (like Arch for example), rice the experience to the oblivion, keep it forever :3

nifty OP ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, I’ll try Arch ^^ I hear Gentoo is also really beginner friendly

Killer57 ,

If I may, please check out Bazzite it's essentially Steam OS for desktop.

lemmyvore ,

Easier to maintain... Arch?

If OP managed to break a distro that releases once every 2 years and then only issues stable updates I don't think they'll cope well with a rolling distro.

nifty OP ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

(that’s the joke, and then I replied with Gentoo being beginner friendly)

Edit but you’re totally right, I wouldn’t be able to troubleshoot Arch or anything tougher

azvasKvklenko ,

Around 12 years ago, I was able to break Debian or Ubuntu installs on weekly basis due to certain packages being too old, something being missing from repos so being forced to compile stuff manually, dealing with junky 3rd party repos etc. Then after switching, I hardly ever messed anything on Arch while also spending less time tweaking it than I did with Ubuntu. Even if I did break something, it was my fault. And it’s not that I cannot handle Debian-based OS installs if I have to. I think those systems are fine if they work for you by default and stock repos contain everything you need (and it’s usually enough for servers) The problem is, it’s not always like that and you just have to add some custom package (prepared by you or someone else) every once in a while, not necessarily with an official support. This is just plain easier on Arch.

Ashyr , (Bearbeitet )

This is why I’ve yet to make the leap from windows. I just don’t have the technical chops nor spare time to make my OS a hobby.

nifty OP ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

In fairness, I suck at Linux. Ubuntu and Linux Mint are relatively easier systems. No one I know has issues with Ubuntu fwiw

cor ,

newer hardware still will have issues…

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Mint broke all the time for me last time i tried using it. After reinstalling it for like the 8th time, I just decided to take a break from Linux. This was like 6 years ago though.

7U5K3N ,

It's a different world now.

All jokes aside. Anything you use these days is going to be pretty stable, have all of your driver's (unless it's absolutely the bleeding edge) and play steam games.

Hell Nvidia isn't even an issue anymore.

But I'll qualify that by saying I'm on a 47xx i5 and a 1060.

Gestrid ,

I installed Mint on a USB to give it a go.

My wifi driver doesn't work on it. I have to plug my phone in to use it as a tethered hotspot to get it to connect. And I tried what a lot of the guides said online. Nothing.

SpaceNoodle ,

Not really the case with user-focused distros these days. I have far more driver woes when I have to deal with Windows.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

This is why I’ve gone back to windows on the machines I care about and don’t plan on going back. Open source software is cool, but it also kinda sucks. I’ll use Linux all day on servers. But my primary desktop is windows and my secondary desktop is Mac OS and I doubt that’s changing any time soon.

citrusface ,

Funny I'm the opposite - I have to use Windows bullshit all day long at work. The last thing I want at home is to deal with it there - pop_os is stable and works perfect for me.

scifun ,

Check Fedora Atomic. It’s pretty much an install and forget system (with auto upgrade enabled)

Using Fedora Atomic is like having a dedicated team of fedora engineers manage your system and you only have to mess with your desktop settings.

Ashyr ,

Thanks for the recommendation. I don’t look forward to the day I’m forced to upgrade windows because that’s when I’ll absolutely need to move over to Linux. I’m just not ready for it.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

If I had a nickel for every "its just install and forget" distro recommended, I could buy a windows license.

scifun ,

Or just install one of those distros and keep money for yourself?

Gestrid ,

I'd say I have the technical chops. I just don't have the time and energy needed to try to fix something.

I'm also the kind of person that, if everything's not working exactly the way I want it to, then I need to fix it right now. So I know I'd waste hours trying to fix something that (for me) just works on Windows.

Rekorse ,

This used to be a requirement but is now optional. For example, Mint, EndeavourOS, and PopOS all are distros that are simple to install and configure, even simpler than windows in most cases. Popos has a software store pre-installed that works exceptionally well and supports flatpaks too. Drivers work out of the box.

There are still the distros that are more complex as a rule, and you can also mess up the distros I mentioned above, but you no longer have to wade through a dark forest to get your computer running correctly for basic use.

Also if you game, the lutris and steam make it extremely easy to do. You really should try it if you haven't in a while, its impressive what those two pieces of software can do now.

llii ,

I just don’t have the technical chops nor spare time to make my OS a hobby.

Windows is not immune to this, I tried to get a few years old wifi stick to work and it was a nightmare with different hardware revisions, old drivers that aren't included in windows, bluescreens and a difference between using the USB 2 and USB 3 ports.
With Linux it just worked out of the box after plugging the stick into the computer.

Pistcow ,

Why doesnt the mass public liek Linux!?

Evil_Shrubbery , (Bearbeitet )

In the olden days, I would have spent hours to fix it, completely forget everything I've done over the course of those several hours and then having to reinstall it bcs I've broken something else in those unsuccessful attempts and now dont have the energy to figure out this clusterfuck too.

Ahh, good memories.

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

You're really selling me on Linux. Sounds like a nightmare

Evil_Shrubbery ,

That was a decade+ ago, closer to two.

I've always had far more driver issues with Windows.

I have a niche laptop that for mic & speakers doesn't really have drivers for that exact ID and a close (working) match are ancient, so can't avoid crackling sounds. No issues out of the box with Linux.

bl_r ,

on a thread about someone having a weird issue with linux

someone shares related story involving troubleshooting for hours

“You’re really selling me on Linux. Sounds like a nightmare”

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Use Timeshift, use Timeshift, use Timeshift.

SzethFriendOfNimi , (Bearbeitet )

Ok. I’ve downloaded, tar and gunzipped the files for it.

Then did a make build and then make install. Now my system won’t start. What do I do?

caseyweederman ,

What
In the off chance that this isn't a joke, does your distro really not have timeshift binaries?

SzethFriendOfNimi ,

It’s a joke

Sabata11792 ,
@Sabata11792@ani.social avatar

I have saved 3 reinstall or 1 week of troubleshooting in only 3 "fuck around and find out" incidents.

powermaker450 ,
@powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

saved me when I deleted the wrong partition.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Same, it's saved my butt so many times. Once in the middle of a tech conference, I was messing around in the terminal with my networking and borked something really bad.

I spent 5 minutes trying to get my networking back but couldn't figure out what I had screwed up and ended up breaking it more.

I just went into Timeshift and restored to the beginning of that day and in a few minutes I was back up like nothing had happened.

rovingnothing29 ,
@rovingnothing29@lemmy.world avatar

I guess I'm the only one timeshift always fails for.

gnuplusmatt ,

Laughs in Fedora Atomic

Sneptaur ,
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Got into an argument about this once. The other person insisted that if I wipe my hard drive and reinstall, that I’m a pathetic moron who doesn’t deserve to use a computer.

In fairness, it’s usually better to fix things so you can learn, but dang they were toxic.

Pilferjinx ,

It's great when you're young and have the spare time and energy on such things.

Gestrid ,

To be fair, at least with Windows, if you do a reinstall I've always found that it never runs quite like it used to. I've sometimes had to deal with some weird quirks afterwards. A friend of mine who kept switching between Google Android and open-sourve Android on his phone said the same thing. Every time he reinstalled Google Android, it simply wouldn't run as well as it did beforehand.

It's like taking a plumbing pipe out and putting it back in. Or taking apart a car engine and putting it back together. It never quite fits together the way it used to anymore.

Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I had the opposite experience with Windows (7 up to 10), every now and then I would have to reinstall it to get some random feature working, which made the system run smoothly for a while - which checks out, considering Windows' affinity for software rot.

Then again, I increasingly debloated it as time went on, which I'd assume contributes to its instability.

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

People like that are why more folks don't like Linux and tech in general.

Bro, gatekeeping computers is something children do.

"You much get invited to a lot of parties?" is generally a good response. "Everyone makes mistakes, you're living proof".

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I'm a pathetic moron

"so there would be two of us then, eh?"

brachypelmasmithi ,

It's funny seeing this like literally a couple days after I decided it would be easier to reinstall my Mint sysyem than to fix the audio issues Pipewire was causing. I'm back on PulseAudio and haven't had issues since.

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

I've been on Linux for about 15 years now ... I'm no pro and I've never really advanced in anything with the terminal

I tried doing stuff years ago but then I came at a crossroad ... either spend my life learning the dark arts of the terminal and all the details of how every major system works ... reinstall every time I have a new problem that I caused ... or just leave everything alone and never tweak or adjust anything.

For the past few years, I just install the latest stable version of anything I use and never bother touching or tweaking anything ... never had a problem since.

brachypelmasmithi ,

For the past few years, I just install the latest stable version of anything I use and never bother touching or tweaking anything ... never had a problem since.

And that's exactly how I'm trying to approach everything after the reinstall. I like tinkering with my system, but after a couple months it really starts messing with everything.

SrTobi ,

How about NixOS where the OS automatically installs the correct software and chooses the right settings. Then you have the time fiddle on your config for hours 🌈

therealjcdenton ,
@therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip avatar

Once you learn about BRTFS snapshots you'll never have this issue again

Emerald ,

Burtfuss

electric_nan ,

Real shit.

spikederailed ,

You learn plenty by breaking and reinstalling. I don't considering it an invalid option for a home user. I had to reinstall MacOS7/8 and Windows 95/98 so many times as a kid. Learned a lot doing it, sysadmin now 🤷‍♂️

299792458ms ,
@299792458ms@lemmy.zip avatar

Fuck around, find out and learn.

bitwaba ,

find out and learn

But you repeat yourself

299792458ms ,
@299792458ms@lemmy.zip avatar

yeah, the point I was trying to make is that some people "find out" but do not learn

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

You learn a lot more by reading and fixing. That's simply not possible with Windows.

Chee_Koala ,

Whenever we (Brother and I) broke our W95 install, it was a pretty high stakes race against the clock to get it to work as expected again, because if my dad got home from work and found out about the broken machine, there would be consequences (him being frustrated, us not allowed to play C&C red alert or Warcraft II)

spikederailed ,

Warcraft2 <3

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