lambalicious ,

Because I left Windows precisely to avoid the kind of shittery that systemd is doing.

It's absolutely no coincidence that the people who have developed the stuff that's brought the most degradation to Linux - systemd, PulseAudio, Gnome's "user has no right to themes" attitude - all come from a Microsoft background or explicitly work for Microsoft.

I'd have far less of a problem if systemd was split into more practical, actually independent things that actually worked and distros didn't buy their snake oil so easily. But for the time being, to me, the systemd experience is pretty much like the PulseAudio experience, what with the whole "waiting 120 seconds for a network interface to activate that it's not going to because it's the damn ethernet port and I'm on the road so the cable is not connected, stupid letter-potter dipshit".

VinesNFluff ,
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The developer of SystemD was mildly rude to some people back in 2009

That means everything he makes is pure evil by definition and explanations as to why it's bad will be invented post-hoc to make it make sense.

Linkerbaan ,
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Linux developers are famous for how civil they handle their arguments. Especially that Linus Torvalds guy.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
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Fuck you

redcalcium ,

I use distros with systemd but damn, pretty soon it's not gnu/linux anymore, it'll be systemd/linux. systemd already manages services, bootloader, dns and networking. Maybe they'll replace coreutils next and the transition is completed.

pipows ,
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I don't find that to be a problem. Systemd manages my system, I would not prefer having 10+ tools to do the same

ricdeh ,
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That's the very opposite of the Unix philosophy though.

pipows ,
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And?

MonkderDritte ,

I had to debug dns issues with a wm. Was disgusted what Systemd all does what it shouldn't.

Musl was fine until i had to install the one blob most people hate and love, Steam.

pete_the_cat ,

Systemd is nice, but it touches way too much IMO. Like, why does it need to touch DNS?

AProfessional ,

systemd-resolved is an independent binary and entirely optional, just developed by the same project.

That said, it’s good. Supported DoT and DNSSEC early, easy to configure. No complaints for simple usage.

MonkderDritte ,

and entirely optional

In.the sense that it is usually delivered with all the other optional modules, and for alternatives or the old default you would need a bunch of shims and wrappers.

hellfire103 ,
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  • OpenRC just feels nice
  • Runit is simple
  • S6 is really fucking fast
  • Some distros (e.g. Guix, Void, Gentoo) come with non-systemd init systems by default, but I use them for other reasons

As for why I sometimes use musl, I like BSD. Also, Alpine Linux uses it by default, and most glibc software I've tried works just fine with gcompat.

Hobbes_Dent ,

Because they can.

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