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Turns out people really don't like being ruled over by nakedly colonialist regimes, and when people really don't like things they tend to blow stuff up, and when people blow stuff up, it hurts the bottom line of oil companies, i.e. the only thing you care about for some reason.

Do you want to create a second Iran? Because that's what happened there.

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Name one time when that's happened.

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Neither of those countries returned to a feudal system. Where are the nobles, with entrenched legal privileges, with titles passed down on a hereditary basis, commanding their own armies? What a ridiculous claim.

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Does North Korea have the noble class I described? Do you have any evidence that such a class exists?

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That's both not true and also not what I asked. The UK has a king and noble family, does that make it a feudal system?

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There are other monarchies in the world today that do hold political power. That doesn't mean that they're governing over a feudal system. The noble system I described is one of the defining characteristics of feudalism.

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Right, because you're doing zero analysis of the economic or political structures involved and playing fast and loose with terminology.

France asks two Chinese spies to leave the country after attempt to forcibly repatriate exiled Chinese dissident ( www.lemonde.fr ) Englisch

The order came from the Elysée Palace but had to remain secret so as not to offend Beijing. The head of the Paris office of the Ministry of State Security (MSE, or Guoanbu), the Chinese intelligence agency, and his deputy were asked to leave France....

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The Chinese embassy issued a response here

I don't read French, but from Google translate, the Chinese narrative is roughly as follows: Ling Huazhan approached the embassy claiming that he had been taken in by Falun Gong and burned his passport as a protest, but had changed his mind, and was now out of money and in need of help. The embassy put him in contact with a charity that provided him with room and board, while contacting his family in China, who purchased a plane ticket for his return. Due to the delicacy of the situation and his history of mental health issues, he was accompanied to the airport, at which point he abruptly changed attitude and claimed to be being abducted, in order to create a diplomatic incident.

I'm not claiming that that narrative is true, but just describing their response.

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MY rotting corpse just has some stiff joints, that's all.

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    What's the historical significance of Tiananmen Square? People sure seem to like talking about it, but personally I don't really see why it warrants so much attention, in the grand scheme of things.

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    Comparing an incident where 11 million people were killed to one where hundreds of people were killed is a form of Holocaust denialism.

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    China has official death estimates so I don't believe that they deny that anything at all happened.

    Now, it’s considered patriotic to protest poor government decisions.

    Is it now? Would you say the student protests over Gaza are considered "patriotic" in mainstream American culture?

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    Are you a Maoist?

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    Even if that's true, isn't it better for countries in the global South to have multiple options instead of being forced to accept whatever conditions are imposed on them by the IMF?

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    So you're a Maoist?

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    Oh great the NSA bots have showed up

    How's the weather in Langley?

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    There's no country where every single person lives in freedom and happiness. But there are numerous countries that have significantly improved the quality of life for the vast majority of people compared to what they had before, including Cuba, Vietnam, and China.

    It may be true that in some cases the quality of life is higher in capitalist countries. But there's a good reason for that! Historically, the countries most prone to socialist revolutions... were countries with some of the lowest standards of living in the world!

    Despite this, China has recently eclipsed the United States in life expectancy. If you compare the two countries' life expectancies before the Communists came to power, no one would expect that to happen! Why? Because for the average rural Chinese person, their way of life was virtually unchanged since ancient times with a life expectancy of 35, comparable to that of the Roman Empire.

    Anti-communists would have us compare communist countries against either an imagined utopia, or against countries starting from a significantly higher level of industrial development. But those comparisons are not relevant to the question at hand! In order to evaluate the efficacy of socialism, the relevant comparison is the system that actually existed before, and what it was on track to do! And in cases like China, we can clearly see that the quality of life was miserable and stagnant for the vast majority of people, until the communists came to power!

    Why do Westerners fail to account for this vital evidence? Because people used to a higher standard of living would take these improvements for granted! For a village tailor, being able to afford a sewing machine could be life-changing - but someone living in the imperial core would have no relevant experience to relate to that! The only thing they would notice is how poor the person still is, regardless of how much or how quickly their life is improving!

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