WaterSword , (Bearbeitet )
@WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Omg! One of my obsessions!!!

Whenever I travel somewhere, as a souvenir, I buy the local design of playing cards. Even within the colour-regions there are many variations. I might be biased because I’m dutch, but the Dutch Cut is one of my favourites, because of the architecture on the aces!

In Italy every region has their own design! (Even within the ones shown in this map.)

EvacuateSoul ,

even in the colored areas

...of the cards, I eventually understood.

WaterSword ,
@WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Oops, maybe that was unclear. I meant even within each area of the map; blue, yellow, orange, green there are regional variations in designs!

calcopiritus ,

In Spain every single playing card company has its own design (even if they are all swords, sticks, coins and cups), probably more than one. I don't think I've ever seen the same design twice, every house I go to has different cards.

WaterSword ,
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Yeah that happens a lot in the rest of the world too. In Italy there are two main manufacturers and they each have their own slight variations upon every regional design. Here in NL I don’t even see the classic (carta mundi brand) dutch style anymore. It’s mostly American cards here now.

neidu2 ,

Huh, pretty cool. I live in the blue area, and always thought others used the same type, because that's what I've seen in all the places I've been. Is there data available for the rest of the world?

Servais OP ,
@Servais@dormi.zone avatar

Found this website that should answer your question: https://www.wopc.co.uk/explore/suits

neidu2 ,

Thanks, but that URL doesn't load on my phone, so I'll check it out on my PC tomorrow. I'm curious if all the countries I've visited have used French style.

WaterSword ,
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In latin America spanish style cards are often used, and you might find some southern italian designs with italian-americans. But for the most part the rest of the world uses the standard “french” suits.

Also, nowadays if you ask for a deck of cards in most of the other places, you’re still likely to get a french-suited deck. Usually the american style (think of your typical bycicle brand card deck).

When I tried to buy a dutch style deck here in the Netherlands they didn't even have it at my local board game store! I had to order them online.

neidu2 ,

There's a Dutch suit too?? I feel like some island inhabitant who just learned that there's a whole world out there full of people, planes, porn, and pop culture, after having grown up alone with his coconuts. This is definitely a rabbit hole I need to explore.

Only Latin American country I've been to is Brazil, and at least the deck of cards we had there was French suit.

WaterSword ,
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It’s not it’s own suit, we use french suits. But the design is it’s own thing, yeah!

WaterSword ,
@WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The brazil thing seems logical, since Portugal uses french suited cards too.

jol , (Bearbeitet )

Huh. That explains why in Portugal hearts is called "copas". Also in Portugal diamonds are called "gold". The design is the French one, but the names stayed the original ones.

All these designs have the same origin in tarot cards, they just evolved slightly differently.

migo ,

But "sticks" and "swords" are inverted, at least in this table.

jol ,

I'm pretty sure this table is incorrect. Swords, spades and cloves are the same. Sticks, clubs, acorns are the same.

jol ,

Reading more about it, it seems like these are the original Latin suits, and the French tried to, and succeeded, in replacing them.

ShugarSkull ,

Actually in France we have both design!

The second one is rarer but you can see it on the "Tarot de Marseille"

It's a different set of cards, in this form there called "lames" (blades) or "arcanes" (arcana)

The set is divided in 4 colors also called family: "épée" (sword), "coupe" (cup, but think of it as the same type of cup as the saint grail), "bâton" (club) and "denier" (it's an old coin)

This compose the 52 "arcanes mineurs"

In addition there also 22 "arcanes majeurs" called "atouts"

And it is usually recognize because it's the base of the Tarot use for divination

But now it's generally used to play the eponymous game of "Tarot", a very good and very old game that me and my friend played a lot at uni

zaphod ,

And with "both" from what it looks like you mean the french and italian styles.

ShugarSkull ,

Yes but also not only, we have MANY more design of tarot card, especially when considering "atouts/arcanes majeurs" as here a deck of tarot is an object of play but also an object of collection

Here an example

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/b1471fb9-cb27-401e-89a6-fcaf19fcf989.jpeg

Foni ,
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Not only do we have our own deck, we also have our own games, ask about the mus or the subastado

psmgx ,

That's more Venetian style, not Italian style

_Gandalf_the_Black_ ,

Curved. Swords.

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