davel , vor 23 Tagen

Ask any opioid partaker and they’ll tell you that’s not how it works.

davel , vor 23 Tagen

Mediocrites, the enlightened centrist.

davel , vor 24 Tagen

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/41da2baf-5d68-4970-a7f5-ecd27edaad1e.jpeg

davel , vor 24 Tagen

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Spam or Abuse

Reporter is having a bad time on lemmy.ml, what more evidence do you need?

davel , vor 24 Tagen

This just seems like a low-effort racist meme to me, so someone please explain to me how I’m wooshed.

davel , vor 24 Tagen

Doctor, it hurts when I do this.

davel , vor 27 Tagen

As Snowden, Assange, and other whistleblowers have shown, in The Land of the Free™ the carriers are in bed with the government. I doubt it’s all that different in other Five/Nine/Fourteen Eyes countries.

davel , vor 29 Tagen

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Historical Revisionism

These historically accurate pictures[1][2] are fake news!

davel , vor 29 Tagen

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Really? Can we please stomp the Nazis, at least here?

Yes, Nazis and other fascists, especially ones who commit genocide, and especially when it doesn’t require a time machine because it’s happening as we speak.

davel , vor 29 Tagen

Everyone knows it means. Where’s your evidence of such a historical rewriting from a The Office meme?

davel , vor 28 Tagen

Look upon our Self-crits, ye Mighty, and despair 😆

davel , vor 28 Tagen (Bearbeitet vor 28 Tagen)

That is what we are told by our government & think tanks & corporate media. It’s a load of doo-doo.

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last month.

• The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
• The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
• Uyghur genocide allegations
• American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
• US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
• A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China

.
The blueprint of regime change operations

We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

As part of China’s affirmative action policies, the Uyghurs and other ethic minorities were excepted from the One-Child policy, and in Xinjiang they have grown in numbers relative to Hans as a result, and this happened similarly with other ethnic minorities in China.

davel , vor 28 Tagen

There is not ethnic cleansing going on, as I expounded on upthread.

davel , vor 27 Tagen

Of course Western media aren’t talking about it: it’s their job not to. They’re the ones pushing the “Uyghur genocide” narrative in the first place. Western media are the media of the capitalist class of the imperial core. The cold war(s)[1][2] and red scare(s)[1][2][3][4] never ended.

• Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
• Propaganda model
• Edward Bernays
• Walter Lippmann
• Council on Foreign Relations
• Powell Memorandum
• The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy

.
Your understanding of China is received wisdom from the imperial core’s governments, think tanks, and corporate media, so your criticisms of it are not reality-based. It’s fine to criticize anything & anyone—China included—but you must not talk nonsense.

Also, all this “simping” framing is tiresome. Historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory. We’re not known for simping, liberals are.

davel , vor 27 Tagen

Won’t somebody please think of dead people’s egos!

davel , vor einem Monat

People in China and Hong Kong can, actually. Presumably your understanding of the Tiananmen riots is about as garbage as almost every other Westerner’s.

• The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
• 1989 Tian'anmen Square riots
• A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
• Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
• Tank Man video footage. Tiananmen Square, Beijing, 1989
• [Carl Zha’s] Memories of Tiananmen Protest

davel , vor einem Monat

The ones that do, do; the ones that don’t, don’t.

davel , vor einem Monat

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Election interference

davel , vor einem Monat

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/ee7f0415-b592-41f6-96c7-09971e3d338e.jpeg

davel , vor einem Monat

Nazi brand wants a Lebensraum do-over.

davel , vor einem Monat

Which crypto-fascists are these?

• History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
• History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
• History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
• History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
• The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

---

• BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
• AP, 2014: Airstrike in eastern Ukraine kills 11 civilians
• Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
• Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
• Truthout, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made
• The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
• The Guardian, 2017: 'I want to bring up a warrior': Ukraine's far-right children's camp – video
• WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
• Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
• The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
• openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
• Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
• Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev

davel , vor einem Monat

I accidentally a did that I oughtn’ta done.

davel , vor einem Monat

Yes, I accidentally the whole do not.

davel , vor einem Monat

No, it’s just about 4,700 km.

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. — Rosa Luxemburg

There’s the ongoing nationwide persecution of college students protesting genocide, for one.

How US gov’t prosecution of Uhuru activists threatens a ‘First Amendment exception’

Then there’s Julian Assange, who the US has been persecuting from afar for the last 13 years despite 1) breaking no US laws, 2) not being a US resident or citizen and 3) not having been on US soil. It does this to threaten journalists not just at home but everywhere.

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

How is that relevant? Political dissidents like Omali Yeshitela and journalists like Assange have also been persecuted before, but why point it out?

Honestly it sounds like you may be trying to make excuses for these attacks on student protestors by claiming that they’re an inevitable force of nature. That it’s always been this way and always will be. Nothing to see here, move along. Hopefully that’s not what you’re trying to do.

And no, the state is not persecuting students for thinking, it’s persecuting them for the same reason it’s persecuting Yeshitela and Assange: for expressing things it would rather not have expressed.

davel , vor einem Monat

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/4fe3fddc-31ff-4373-a172-79ccdabaf431.jpeg

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

Less Wrong is brainworms, as are the effective altruism and longtermism movements. US tech industry oligarchs like Musk, Thiel, and SBF (as you mentioned) are closely associated with these movements. Look into Less Wrong’s Eliezer Yudkowsky. Podcasts Tech Won’t Save Us, This Machine Kills, and Team Human have covered these movements, their movers, and their associated tech billionaires extensively. Some are grifters like SBF, and some are outright fascists like Thiel.

davel , vor einem Monat

Appropriate username is appropriate.

izutsumi-idea !nonpolitical_memes

You know where the block button is.

davel , vor einem Monat

Your account is as old as mine. By now I’d think you’d know better.

Oh right, we had this conversation just last week: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/11375618

So I shouldn’t expect you to know anything.

davel , vor einem Monat

bootlicker

davel , vor einem Monat

The history of socialist movements shows that it is. Rosa Luxemburg was right over a hundred years ago.

davel , vor einem Monat

Average imperial core Cold Warrior understander.

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

By millions murdered, you don’t mean people who died in the last famine in China after centuries of famines, and you don’t mean the last famine in the region that became the USSR after centuries of famines, right? Famines that happened during or soon after the bloody revolutions overthrowing the tsars and emperors, under which the previous famines occurred?

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

The boxer rebellion was 50 years before the Chinese Communist Revolution. The CIA’s own unclassified reports show what people in gulags were fed. Why would they choose people at random? That would be dumb. Nazis, kulaks, other prisoners of the revolutionary war, and common criminals were in gulags.

davel , vor einem Monat

If ever there was a real world example of Newspeak, it is how—thanks to class war and three red scares—the working class no longer even has a word for socialism. So now welfare capitalists like Bernie Sanders call themselves socialist despite never calling for the abolition of the private ownership of the means of production. It’s an amazing achievement of the capitalist class’ propaganda machine.

davel , vor einem Monat

Bruh, they literally picked people from bread lines and threw them into the gulag.

[citation needed]
Do you even think critically about the cold war propaganda we were fed? Why would you pick people out of bread lines and put them into gulags to feed them there? That would mean you’d have to build more gulags and get people to staff them. Why would you do that unless you’re a cartoon villain? It makes no sense.

Not to mention the majority of clergy for just being christian clergy.

I have no great love for clergy, especially when they side with tsars against a worker revolution.

davel , vor einem Monat

To be fair, most liberals don’t understand taxation, ether, which is why neoliberalism lumbers on, the zombie ideology it is.

• Your [US federal] Taxes Pay for Nothing
• Why The Government Has Infinite Money

davel , vor einem Monat

What, defeating the Nazis? Breaking free from Emperors, Western imperialism, and Japanese imperialism? I’d say those needed to be done, yes.

davel , vor einem Monat

Anyone who disagrees with me is MAGA!

fucking liberals

davel , vor einem Monat

This is just as indecipherable as your previous comment.

davel , vor einem Monat

this u?

And [China] has worked tirelessly to create [disunity in Europe], yes. Europeans have looked at the chaos in the US with a sense that it represents some kind of moral failing specific to Americans, but the reality is they themselves have been part of the same decades long social engineering campaign by Russia and China.

The only difference is the goals have been slightly different for each target and the type of trolling and propaganda exploits slightly different social and cultural weaknesses. But ultimately the goal has always been to drive a wedge between the US and Europe, and weaken both.

Because that is some weapons-grade BlueAnon conspiracy theorizing.

davel , vor einem Monat

Let me guess, Tiananmen square was a totally justified response to CIA instigated unrest too?

Presumably your understanding of the Tiananmen riots is about as garbage as almost every other Westerner’s.

• The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
• 1989 Tian'anmen Square riots
• A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
• Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
• Tank Man video footage. Tiananmen Square, Beijing, 1989

.

How about you link to a single source from any reputable news agency anywhere around the world instead of random shady sites that totally aren’t propaganda?

Sorry, I don’t have any MBFC-approved sources for you on hand. I think you’d just ignore them or move the goalposts if I posted them anyway. I doubt you have an understanding of how our own propaganda works.

• Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
• Propaganda model
• Edward Bernays
• Walter Lippmann
• Council on Foreign Relations
• Powell Memorandum
• The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

And note that I said anywhere in the world

Yes, I heard you the first time.

they’re all cia psyops

Obviously not everything is. This isn’t a a very good straw man.

America is authoritarian doesn’t mean you should trust what their opponents say about their own bad behavior

Obviously not, and yet again you’re putting words in my mouth to construct a ridiculous straw man.

Have fun licking that boot

Have fun licking imperial core boot, I guess? I don’t know how or why you’ve twisted this into boot-lickery.

davel , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

China:

• Reuters, 2018: China overtakes U.S. for healthy lifespan: WHO data
• United Nations, 2019: Helping 800 Million People Escape Poverty Was Greatest Such Effort in History, Says Secretary-General, on Seventieth Anniversary of China’s Founding

---

US:

• World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country
• List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
• A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
• The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
• Shock therapy (economics)
• Are We The Baddies?
• The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
• Infographic: US military presence around the world The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined.
• Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich

davel , vor einem Monat

Ignorant? Do you imagine that we haven’t been exposed to exactly the same imperal core propaganda our entire lives as everyone else here? Generally speaking, we know everything that you know. The only difference is that we took the time & effort—and had the intellectual honesty—to learn more.

davel , vor einem Monat

You’re on .ml, clown.

davel , vor einem Monat

Lol

Imagine defending a state online by posting a CIApedia link

The Cold War had only a brief pause before the pivot to Asia. The US tried to foment unrest in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last week.

• The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
• The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
• Uyghur genocide allegations
• American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
• US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
• A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
• The blueprint of regime change operations

We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.