primalmotion ,
@primalmotion@lemmy.antisocial.ly avatar

I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here...

Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it's subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are "nice". Wow.

Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.

soulfirethewolf ,

I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.

psycho_driver ,

I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.

Krafting ,
@Krafting@lemmy.world avatar

I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

SnokenKeekaGuard ,
@SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen

somnuz ,

Wait.. so why is it 69/23 for me?

Cube6392 ,
@Cube6392@beehaw.org avatar

Vote federation can be weird

InvaderDJ ,

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

I've been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.

idkwhatimdoing ,

Yes, the internet is much bigger than it was in 2003, and it needs more complex protective tools. The fact that you haven't noticed cloudflare when it is working is a sign that it is, well, working.

And the fact that your favorite sites aren't down more often is yet another sign. Downtime due to DDOS attacks alone would be so much greater without cloudflare than downtime due to cloudflare currently is. Your perspective is a pure lack of knowledge and an excess of confirmation bias.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

It's the eternal IT conundrum. Something goes wrong: "What are we paying you for?!" Everything goes right: "What are we paying you for?!"

It's best to ignore the users as much as possible and just keep working.

foggy ,

You are very difficult to respect.

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Your respect is very difficult to care about.

Aasikki ,

I've been using the intermet since 2003

Then you should remember this:
https://youtu.be/48rz8udZBmQ?si=81BQVmYGYRhpPCsw

KairuByte ,

O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?

AFaithfulNihilist ,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it's better to choose cloudflare or something similar.

I'm going to go ahead and assume you don't work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.

foggy ,

This persons main connection to the internet is hentai.

Just... save your braincells.

zifnab25 ,
@zifnab25@hexbear.net avatar

yea

foggy ,

So no, then.

KairuByte ,

While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.

far_university1990 ,

Cuckflare: host loves it, everyone else hates it

kubica ,
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

lukas3651 ,

Tailscale is the way! Have been running it since January, flawlessly.

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

I went full rabbit hole and discovered headscale

foggy ,

Cloudflare is excellent, this post is nonsense.

RickyRigatoni OP ,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Don't use memes to make decisions I'm just mad I can't use the discord app on my desktop, can't download manga from nhentai without jumping through hoops anymore, and have to solve 5 captchas in a row when I use a vpn which is all the time.

dill ,

Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

wildbus8979 ,

Not all of us.

AFallingAnvil ,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

You're trying too hard

txmyx ,

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

greyscale ,
@greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

TORFdot0 ,

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

30p87 ,

Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.

So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.

foggy ,

Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

mvirts ,

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

greyscale ,
@greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Their management control plane absolutely is a single point of failure.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.

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