IsThisAnAI , vor 2 Monaten (Bearbeitet vor 2 Monaten)

Lolol same exact thing 🤣

Elon hypes the shit out of them and misses a lot.

But the model 3, and now especially the next gen is a fantastic car.

Theranos was straight up fraud.

ZDL OP , vor 2 Monaten

The Model 3 is an overpriced, shoddily-assembled car. The only reason it's the "affordable" one is because of the huge amount of tax incentives E-vehicles get. If you had to pay the actual cost of a Model 3 you would not be calling it a "fantastic car".

I know it's hard for the Tesla cultists to accept, rather like the Apple cultists before them, but Tesla products are not good products for the price.

IsThisAnAI , vor 2 Monaten (Bearbeitet vor 2 Monaten)

You clearly haven't seen the new ones. The quality gap is minimal, the next gen interior is much more in line with its competition.

It finally made consumer reports good buy.

psud , vor 2 Monaten

know it's hard for the Tesla cultists to accept, rather like the Apple cultists before them, but Tesla products are not good products for the price.

Likewise, it must be hard for the Musk haters (and anti Apple people!) to accept it when Tesla (or Apple) make a good product at good value. I live in Australia and get no discount to the price of the car and call it good value.

SatansMaggotyCumFart , vor 2 Monaten

I think most people who talk Tesla up these days drive a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 in between DUIs.

ZDL OP , vor 2 Monaten

Literally 15 seconds to find.

I'm pretty sure the other states have similar incentives.

Fifteen. Seconds.

psud , vor 2 Monaten (Bearbeitet vor 2 Monaten)

I'm pretty sure the other states have similar incentives [as Adelaide!]

Now look up Victoria. They have an extra tax to stop EV owners from dodging the excise on petrol

Where I am we have free registration for two years and the ability to drive in HOV lanes, which is a couple of hundred dollars of benefit

Australia is a Federation. Each state, and to some extent the two mainland territories, sets its own rules to a large extent. We have no federal incentives on EVs

Nice of you to accuse me of lying without looking for more than 15 seconds, arsehole

Geobloke , vor 2 Monaten

Your link also said the incentive on price has finished

Tar_alcaran , vor 2 Monaten

That's pretty unfair.

Elizabeth Holmes straight up lied about a product that couldn't possibly do what she claimed, and intentionally kept lying about it.

Elon Musk lied about so many products I can't event count them all.

ZDL OP , vor 2 Monaten

🤣

intrepid , vor 2 Monaten

Easy. He classifies his lies by his company:

• Tesla: FSD, Cybertruck, Semi, Optimus and the spandex dancing man, solar shingles, solar farm, thermonuclear explosion proof glass, bullet proof chassis, battery-swap, range under full charge, share value, etc
• Boring Company: Hyperloop, Not a flamethrower, Vegas loop, pods, tunnel bricks, etc
• SpaceX: Martian colony, surface to surface starship, in-orbit refueling (to get to moon), in-situ methane production on Mars, etc
• Neuralink: Telepathy, Brain backup
• Twitter: Free speech
• Musk himself: His net worth, The man who knows more about manufacturing than anyone else alive

Riccosuave , vor 2 Monaten

That's quite a good list you've got going there already. Did you do that from memory?

intrepid , vor 2 Monaten

Yes, it's from memory. But don't congratulate me yet. My guess is that it is just one third of Musk's most egregious lies.

machinin , vor 2 Monaten

I don't know how up-to-date this is, but it's amazing.

https://elonmusk.today/

Riccosuave , vor 2 Monaten

I meant to reply to you yesterday, but I forgot. Your link was amazing, thanks for posting.

I had to stop reading after a while though because I was getting too fucking depressed that so many morons keep willingly giving this chuckle-fuck their money even though all of the available evidence points to him being a pedantic child and pathological liar who's companies exist in spite of him rather than because of him.

ZDL OP , vor 2 Monaten

👏

HEXN3T , vor 2 Monaten

This could be turned into the Ultimate Showdown.