pyre

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

depends. for "AI" "art" the problem is both terms are lies. there is no intelligence and there is no art.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

i won't, but art has intent. AI doesn't.

Pollock's paintings are art. a bunch of paint buckets falling on a canvas in an earthquake wouldn't make art, even if it resembled Pollock's paintings. there's no intent behind it. no artist.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

I'm so sick of this. there are scenarios in which so-called "AI" can be used as a tool. for example, resampling. it's dodgy, but whatever, let's say the tech is perfected and it truly analyzes data to give a good result rather than stealing other art to match.

but a tool is something that does exactly what you intend for it to do. you can't say 100 dice are collectively "a tool that outputs 600" because you can sit there and roll them for as long as it takes for all of them to turn up sixes, technically. and if you do call it that, that's still a shitty tool, and you did nothing worth crediting to get 600. a robot can do it. and it does. and that makes it not art.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

comes with having a brain and knowing what intent means.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

yes because there is no intelligence. AI is a misnomer. intent needs intelligence.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen

cameras do not make random images. you know exactly what you're getting with a photograph. the reason you take multiples is mostly for timing and lighting. also, rolling a hundred dice is not the same as painting something 100 times and picking the best one, nor is it like photographing it. the fact that you're even making this comparison is insane.

pyre , vor 2 Tagen (Bearbeitet vor 2 Tagen)

there's something's highly suspect about someone not understanding the difference between art made by a human being and some output spit out by a dumb pixel mixer. huge red flag imo.

and yes, the value does go. because we care about origin and intent. that's the whole point.

if the original Mona Lisa were to be sold for millions of dollars, and then someone reveals that it was not the original Mona Lisa but a replica made last week by some dude... do you think the buyer would just go "eh it looks close enough"? no they would sue the fuck out of the seller and guess what, the painting would not be worth millions anymore. it's the same painting. the value is changed. ART IS NOT A PRODUCT.

pyre , vor einem Tag

the "people" you're talking about were talking about tools. I'm talking about intent. Just because you compare two arguments that use similar words doesn't mean the arguments are similar.

pyre , vor einem Tag

the AI itself doesn't know what it's doing, neither are you. the fact that you're putting in words to change the outcome until the dice fall somewhat close to where you want them to fall doesn't make it yours. you can't add your own style to it, because you're not doing it.

pyre , vor einem Tag

it's not a product in the sense that its value does not come from its function, otherwise it would not lose value when it would be revealed to be of a different origin, but otherwise exactly the same. i spoke of the monetary value just because it's quantifiable; it's not otherwise relevant.

if Mona Lisa was free and digital it would be as valuable as a digital Mona Lisa could be. being free and digital doesn't make it pointless, without agency or intent like AI art is.

pyre , vor einem Tag

that's like me intending for it to rain and when it eventually would, claiming i made it rain because i intended for it.

pyre , vor einem Tag

i didn't say knowing the intent is needed. i believe in death of the author, so that isn't relevant.

the intent to create art is, however, needed. the fountain is art, but before it became the fountain, the urinal itself wasn't.

pyre , vor einem Tag

there's a difference between not having a unique style and physically being unable to have a style because you have next to no input in the process.

pyre , vor einem Tag

because if you teach me to pronounce some japanese words without teaching me what it means, i may say them perfectly, and even trick some people who don't see my face into thinking I'm speaking native japanese, even though i don't know what the fuck I'm saying. the fact that i tricked some people into thinking otherwise does not make me a japanese person.

pyre , vor einem Tag

again, there are instances, like resampling, depending on the algorithm, where "AI" (misnomer) can be used as a tool.

what people generally mean when they say "AI art" is not that.

pyre , vor einem Tag

I know. that's not a tool.

pyre , vor einem Tag

that's not the point... the point is that AI doesn't know what the fuck it's doing.

pyre , vor einem Tag

you keep saying morals; I'm pretty sure you don't know what that means.

pyre , vor 3 Tagen

why was she running? her biggest achievement is fucking off immediately after being burdened with any responsibility. the absolute audacity.

pyre , vor 3 Tagen

i have nothing to add to your comment but i love your username

pyre , vor 3 Tagen

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f92b7bb8-986e-4037-8aba-d7411ae9254b.gif

pyre , vor 11 Tagen

i have that desktop and it's called windows, not gnome

pyre , vor 10 Tagen

AI is new, Windows has been doing it in advance for decades.

pyre , vor 19 Tagen

i hate them because they remove anything that makes their games unique and make all their games have the same features until they're all completely interchangable gray sludge.

pyre , vor 20 Tagen

clearly op doesn't think this behavior is right, as they've used it as an example of "the worst monster of all", but the confusing part is why and if anyone would ever even do this. it would have worked better if the person picked one way or another; at least it would have been a statement on op's part.

fyi the right way is to put it over, unless you have a cat, then you're allowed to put it under without penalty or shame.

pyre , vor 21 Tagen

whenever I see this "calmly" quote I'm reminded how many adverbs jowling kowling rowling used in the books. it's like the opposite of show don't tell.

pyre , vor 29 Tagen

nah. at worst it's the lesser of two evils. the alternative is keeping a crushing majority of the user base vulnerable forever because virtually no one likes to voluntarily update their os.

pyre , vor 29 Tagen

... and it does handle this during those periods. unless you tell it not to. or set the non working hours wrong.

pyre , vor 29 Tagen

the download does happen in the background. the installation is what requires shutting down. i only find out there's any update when the shutdown button is marked and whenever I'm done i tell it to install the update and shutdown. it's really not as bad as you guys desperately seem to want it to be.

pyre , vor 29 Tagen

whatever floats your boat. keep getting things wrong so you can feel better about jumping ship i guess?

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

... no? i guess you're having a different conversation in your head than the one your eyes should be reading.

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

you are sounding more crazy with every comment, that part is accurate.

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

too bad Linux doesn't protect mental health

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

oh boy that's weak.

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

check the word counts in this thread

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

i love that you eventually devolved into a bot

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

good bot

pyre , vor 28 Tagen

it's clear you've never really been out

pyre , vor 27 Tagen

you're trying so hard it's embarrassing

pyre , vor 27 Tagen

good bot

pyre , vor 27 Tagen

bad bot

pyre , vor 27 Tagen

k bb

pyre , vor einem Monat

who even finds that dumbass humorous

pyre , vor einem Monat

but to be fair, is it really a captcha if it doesn't give you nightmares?

pyre , vor einem Monat

so a regular analog clock. which is why the saying is actually "twice a day" not "once".

pyre , vor einem Monat (Bearbeitet vor einem Monat)

i said regular as a qualifier because i was expecting someone to point out niche clocks like a 24-hour one or whatever. plus if we're talking digital clocks the saying falls apart anyway because most of them would just not show anything rather than getting stuck on one time.

pyre , vor einem Monat

wow, bravo.... BRAVO!

pyre , vor einem Monat

that made me cry laugh