Mio

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Mio ,

They differ a lot. I don't understand why Microsoft does not want to improve on this situation. At minimum take all questions at once, or collect answers from existing installation. Maybe have some profiles of answers like wipe disk and privacy mode.

Mio ,

You are right, most don't need it. Yet they still have the wizard guide, and with several new GUI questions implemented. So they are maintaining the setup wizard - just does not want to improve it. I am sure Microsoft have the money to improve on it and make more users happy(read not leaving Windows).

Windows have come to a point where they don't need to improve much more. So they only focus on the stuff that might bring in extra money instead(ads and data harvesting). This will be their downfall if it does not align with what the users want. It will be interesting to see how the deal with ARM - problem to bring legacy programs. Yes, one day we will move to ARM on all new computers as they are just so much better. A good opportunity to rethink a lot and for Microsoft lose its big walls around Windows. Easier for competitors to come in.

Linux have also improved due to users always want a friendly GUI. And the users have more power to actually make a difference due to the nature of being open source. Automated installs here are still needed. A few sell OEM with Linux.

Just look at Apple, how big market share they have despite Microsoft have existed for so many years. 15% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide
The competition have started.

Mio ,

I meant - privacy mode just means answer no tracking on all the questions. Yes, they will still turn those back on when the next Windows update happen, but that is beside the point.

Mio ,

Right, so lets shutdown Windows as it does not bring in enough money.

I don't think that would be a good idea, to let it rot away. It is a business that brings in money after all, and it keeps the users using Microsoft office(Office 365) and all their products. They need to keep it alive.

Mio ,

It works for a while but they will lose market share over time. The home users are mostly not locked in to anything. It is just them that might use their pc at home for work(they should use their work laptop for that). Nowadays most things are webbased. Console/Steamdeck/Android/Chromebooks exists.
Microsoft even made Visual Studio Code for any OS so coders can use any OS.
The need for Windows is shrinking as people development alternative software for other platforms. It just take time.

Mio ,

I think many is afraid. It is unknown OS. No one likes change. Many thinks IT is hard. especially elder people.
However:

  • There is to few places to even buy a computer with Linux on it.
  • No ads on TV or similar, nowhere to test, not a single .exe file to run and test it out
  • Works differently - need to relearn.

A kid does not have any problem with the above. This is why Steam Deck is selling. It is just fun to test something new with your friends and see what all the buttons do. Seen as cool. Any guess where this is going when they get adult?

Mio ,

That will put sticks in the development. A lot of people think like you say.

Mio ,

They don't know. For computers it is easy, but for Phones - this is really hard.
But be glad that the masses don't know about it. They actually watch all ads and bring in the money, so us educated can leech with no ads.

Mio ,

This is a setting in Excel. But Cloud is the default option.

Mio ,

It depends how out of date you are.

Mio ,

Yes. The question comes down to how many of these you need. And do you have the resources for it?

Mio ,

Running updates at shutdown/upstart is something I am not a big fan of. It might be safe but I would rather roll back if something goes wrong.

Mio ,

This is the part i dislike like with Fedora compared with Ubuntu. It is so many updates.

But since you can choose the time when to install the updates, there is a less of a problem.

Normally you don't notice any difference. And updates is much faster to install on Linux in general. Windows eats loads of CPU.

Mio ,

When Mozilla provide the firefox deb package - Why not give it then?
IMO snaps/flatpacks are slower to start, can't be updated while running, takes more diskspace, and takes longer time to update. With the isolation we also have different kind of problems - have you given it the correct permission?, and how do you get keepassxc browser extension to work with it(they dont support it)?

Mio ,

I don't really see a problem with a snaps/flatpaks as long as they are not on application I use every day.

But maybe it is easier if we have one standard instead of two.

Mio ,

I look at this from the developers perspective. Only need to learn one is good.

Mio ,

I actually dont understand why we not do something drastic. I mean like ban cars and planes. We can still get around. Just not at the same speed at the moment. Someone will come up with a better idea then gas cars.

We also need to think about computers. Why throw them away? We could just make better software and keep the devices for a very, very long time. Heck, very bad computer could land on the moon...

Mio ,

Well, it is the many against the few rich. It is everyones planet.

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