philpem , Englisch
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You know what #EMF2024 #emfcamp needs?

Cable TV.

foone ,
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@philpem the year after I manage to resurrect VideoCipher, I'll launch the greatest cable TV network for EMF

philpem OP ,
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@foone oh heck yeah. I had a brief look at videocipher and figured there wasn't enough info out there to make a scrambler. I guess you found more than I did!

scarlet ,
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@philpem don't tempt me… 👀

sam ,

@scarlet @philpem I probably still have some old modulators lying around that used to be operated by some Dutch cable co…

philpem OP ,
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@sam @scarlet I would be very interested in old cable TV equipment!
I'm doing a talk about building a cable headend on Stage C in about an hour:
https://www.emfcamp.org/schedule/2024/203-being-elliot-carver

robert ,
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@philpem @sam @scarlet
With teletext, of course.. I've got a couple of SofTel inserters, plus a generator, that would slot right in.

Having seen so much posted about #emfcamp this year, I'm definitely going to have to work out how I can get to the next one! Might even be tempted to set up some sort of viewdata service, too..

zxguesser ,
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@robert @philpem
I'm confident that by 2026 vbit2 will have databroadcast capability... Whether I've thought of a use for that by then is a different matter of course 😅

robert ,
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@zxguesser @philpem
Is there anything surviving that can actually decode databroadcast?

zxguesser ,
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@robert @philpem For all I know @citifax might still be making decoders 😆

zxguesser ,
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@robert @philpem I recently discovered that libzvbi doesn't actually work which is slightly irritating and has set my project back a little

robert ,
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@zxguesser @philpem
That doesn't help :(

zxguesser , (Bearbeitet )
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@robert @philpem thankfully it'll happily give me raw packet data so I can just implement my own version until such time as I can get a patch into libzvbi if that's even possible (someone does seem to have taken over maintenance recently so 🤞)

philpem OP ,
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@zxguesser @robert If there's nothing left, I have been modifying Broadcast Projects Teletext receivers to give them more capabilities. I'm pretty sure the EURO-CCT chips can do datacast.

zxguesser ,
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@philpem @robert we ought to be able to do something on a Beeb too. Though that might involve me learning some 6502 which I made no progress with last time I tried 😬

robert ,
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@zxguesser @philpem
Ah, I tried generating teletext on a Beeb, ~1989.. Moved the top of screen up, poked data into the right bits of video RAM. Just as we're doing now with the Pi. I didn't succeed, as I'm not sure I got it in the right place, and the only teletext TV was in another room, so a lot of walking back and forth made me give up fairly quickly, but it was a fun try..

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